![]() |
nanoFlash Progress Update
I am pleased to report that we are making solid progress on the nanoFlash. With Dan Keaton on-board to manage sales and marketing and the progress in code development on the Flash XDR, we can now focus more of our efforts on nanoFlash.
Currently the nanoFlash main board is through PCB (printed circuit board) layout. We should finish the top board by the end of this month, which would allow us to build prototype units in Feb. We are reusing 95% of the code from XDR, so the debug should go very fast. Some highlights of nanoFlash include: 1) Small size: 4.1x3.7x1.25" in size (four nanoFlashes would fit on a single page of paper). 2) Low-Power: 8 Watts (active) and less than 0.4 Watts in standby. 3) Two Compact Flash slots 4) Same very high quality Sony MPEG2 CODEC with 100 Mbps 4:2:2 5) No analog audio I/O (no room in the box), but full embedded support. 6) Remote Start/Stop, Tally Light, RS-232/485 and LTC Input. 7) Most of the same basic capabilities of XDR, such as QT/MXF support, I-Frame only, 24p removal etc. That about sums it up. Oh yes, one other minor detail...nanoFlash will have both HD/SD-SDI as well as HDMI In and Out... Cheers- |
HDMI in and out is such good news!
Thank you for your foresight. I was just about to get a WD TV for viewing and demoing footage, but now the Nano Flash can serve that role even better. Great for monitoring as well. |
Dear Tim,
The HDMI out is great for viewing the footage wherever an HDMI equipped television is available. I can see that this would be great for viewing the days footage, either on set, or back at a hotel. |
.....Hmmmmmm ! HDMI Support ! HMMMMMMMMMMMMM ! I vaguely remember humbly suggesting this feature be added. The response I got from you folks at the time was less than enthusiastic ;-) Glad to see you finally understood the basic need for HDMI support. Especially considering the plan revision and future iterations of the HDMI spec about to come along.
|
Hi Mark-
I recall your recommendation. Yes, I response was not overwhelming. It did take us a number of months and lots of head scratching to wedge in the HDMI In and Out, while keeping the same overall box dimensions. So, we did listen to you recommnedations / thoughts, it just took some extra time to implement. Cheers- |
This is GOOD news!!
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
Where do you find that the HDMI spec supports full-duplex communication? I have thoroughly read the spec as well as designed both the HDMI In and HDMI Out circuits. HDMI as well as HD/SD-SDI are uni-directional protocols. The extra bandwidth supported in the HDMI spec is great, but since our products are limited to 1.5GHz HD-SDI (1080p30), it's an overkill for our application. Yes, someday, in some future product, we will support 1080p60, which is already allowed in the HDMI 1.3 spec, but not anytime soon. Best- |
Regarding HDMI for recording and editing purposes - I am not sure that this protocol supports much needed timecode addressing of each frame.
|
Dear John,
As far as I know, the HDMI output on cameras do not include timecode. However, if one wants to provide external timecode to the nanoFlash, we will incorporate it into our footage. |
Quote:
You are absolutely correct, HDMI does not support time-code. However, we can add time-code (via LTC or internally generated) to the QT/MXF file when we capture the video. If you use LTC timeocde, it won't be 100% perfect as no HDMI camera has genlock input, but it should be very close. However, on playback out the HDMI, there is no path to transmit the timecode, but still useful for monitoring. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
OK, I'll take your word on it, as I have not seen the spec. Until the actual silicon is available, we cannot implement this spec. Yes, we are aware of the multi-channel audio capability and have long-ago implemented this feature in our nanoConnect (HDMI to HD-SDI) box. Cheers- |
The reason I noted one of the drawbacks of the currently available HDMI (1.3) was to point out the positives of HD-SDI and why HDMI is not a better replacement for it as I think was being indicated.
Another superior practical use of HD-SDI is cabling and length of cable runs possible. HD-SDI is many times less expensive and can be run up to 200ft from camera source to switcher or recorder. HDMI cabling is expensive with far less limited runs without extender amplifiers. Then there is the connectors - HDMI is not a solid locking male to female connection compared to BNC used in SDI. There are some hybrid new style locking HDMI connections, but again, they are expensive and limited in cable lengths. And I don't think HDMI connections were intended for routine plug in/out cycles that would be used in a production cycle like BNC connectors on the SDI. As I see it, the HDMI implementation in the Nano is a great added value for monitoring as I think it was meant. It was very interesting to hear that a new upcoming implementation of HDMI 1.4 would be carrying timecode. |
Quote:
The MXF file structure language when utilised with HDMI spec is an awesome force of technical flexibility. |
Dear Friends,
We included an HDMI input on the nanoFlash because people were asking for it. This allows the use of some very capable low-cost cameras, ones with images far better than can be expected for their extremely low price. In addition, we added the ability to convert from HDMI to HD-SDI out. When you are connected to an HDMI source, the signal will be sent out both the HDMI output and HD-SDI output. We included the HDMI output on the nanoFlash since (1) It allowed for the use of HDMI equipped monitors or television for monitoring on-set. and (2) It allowed for any HDMI equipped monitor or television for viewing the footage off-set. This turns the nanoFlash into a very capable HD player. HDMI input requires a separate circuit and connector from the HDMI output; one connector and one circuit will not surfice for our needs. HD-SDI currently has tremendous advanages over HDMI when it comes to long cable runs and professional locking BNC connectors. But HD-SDI is a pro interface and many lower cost cameras now have HDMI outputs, so we support both in the nanoFlash. |
HDMI and the nanoFlash
Hi John,
We agree with your comments. Basically we added HDMI out for monitoring to a low-cost LCD / Plasma panel and to support Digital Signage applications, such as trade shows, museums, etc. HDMI-In was added for low-cost cameras and for digital signage applications where the content is streamed from a PC or satellite receiver and then encoded and modulated for transmission over cable. We are studying techniques to secure the HDMI cable to the nanoFlash box. But it will never be as reliable a connection as BNC. We look forward to the enhancements from HDMI 1.4, but realistically they are several years into the future as none of the available silicon chips support this spec. HDMI has it's place in the industry as a low-cost cost short-run interconnect, but good old coax-based HD/SD-SDI will have a very long life. Coax will always be much less expensive than HDMI cable and support much greater run-lenghts. Each standard offers advanatages and disadvantages based on the application. The nanoFlash should offer the best of both worlds. Best- |
Quote:
|
Quote:
I don't understand your comment about the lack of practical locking HDMI plugs. (??) They have them now. In Montreal, when CBC television goes on location, they walk up to the nearest telephone wall plug, and pull it out, unscrew and fish out the four wire connectors and screw those into a Canon XLR audio box, call a number, then suddenly they have a direct studio quality ballanced sound line to the folks back at the station and they speak back and fourth quite clearly. If they don't have time, then they just go wireless with both the audio and video out to a new kind of Microwave truck (Much smaller now). The producer doesn't even sit in the van anymore. The producer remains at the station. Kinda cool actually. Intel & Microsoft are experimenting with a mobile WIFI internet system with MSNBC right now (video looks like crap), but in a year it won't. I bet the Flash XDR and the Nanoflash will become standard equipment everywhere because it is ready for IP broadcasting, yet seems to be able to bridge the gap between older and newer clip based technologies ! I think this is what gives this kind of device the biggest bang for the buck. Very interesting. |
Dear Mark,
Yes, our plans for the nanoFlash include the timelapse feature. This feature has not yet been developed for either the Flash XDR or the nanoFlash. |
Quote:
|
Dan & Mike ...
Any news on the progress of the nano flash?
|
nanoFlash Progress
Hi Dean-
Yes, I am pleased to report that we should have actual boards later this month and cabinets in early March. I hope to have a working prototype in about 1 month. Production should follow in April. We are reusing 95% of the technology from XDR, so debug is expected to proceed quickly. We devoted a considerable amount of design effort in reducing the power consumption, now targeted at 8W active and 0.2W in standby. We'll soon find the actual results. Best- |
Mike ...
great news and thanks for the heads up!
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:49 AM. |
DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2025 The Digital Video Information Network