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Dusty Powers April 5th, 2010 07:44 PM

Robin:

I always charge for the tapes. It's a cheap cost for backup when using the HDX-900 and NanoFlash. I use Shotput Pro to dump the CF cards to hard drives. If I'm in the field and I'm shooting more footage than I have CF cards for then I dump to the Nexto as I go along.

Robin Probyn April 5th, 2010 08:11 PM

Ok thanks for the info

Dave Chalmers April 6th, 2010 01:24 AM

80Mbps may be ideal point??
 
Hi there,

I've heard that some boffins have figured out that 75Mbps is the 'sweet spot' for Long GOP MPGEG2 HD, at which point it becomes indistinguishable through the Terrestrial HD broadcast chain against 100Mbps AVC-I for example.

Perhaps the new 80Mbps datarate in the next firmware rev might be the perfect 'step-up' for those concerned about heavy grading on 50Mbps material.
As I understand it, the NLE's will still see this as 50, but the datarate will in fact be 80.

On redundant recording, it depends - for second camera stuff we shoot only NanoFlash and haven't lost anything yet.
For news and primary camera greenscreen shoots we shoot redundant tape/Nano as a safety measure for 'unrepeatable' events.

Dave

Robin Probyn April 6th, 2010 01:33 AM

Ok thanks Dave..

Hope Spring lets to Glasgow soon!

Robin Probyn April 6th, 2010 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty Powers (Post 1510291)
Robin:

I always charge for the tapes. It's a cheap cost for backup when using the HDX-900 and NanoFlash. I use Shotput Pro to dump the CF cards to hard drives. If I'm in the field and I'm shooting more footage than I have CF cards for then I dump to the Nexto as I go along.


How do you get your files out of the Nexto.. USB?

Thanks

Dan Keaton April 6th, 2010 04:33 AM

Dear Robin,

The Nexto's support connecting to the your computer via USB and eSATA.

Robin Probyn April 6th, 2010 04:38 AM

Hi Dan

Ok thanks.. what is eSATA

While I have you!

How must the camera be set for time lapse..? if I set HDX900 to TL.. will this automatically go to Nano via SDI.. if I set the nano for TL.. what about recording to tape same time?

Thanks

Dan Keaton April 6th, 2010 06:07 AM

Dear Robin,

eSATA is "External Serial ATA", a very fast computer interface, one of the fastest currently available.

SATA is typically used as a internal, computer to disk drive interface. eSATA is used to connect to external devices.

If you setup your camera for timelapse, then you record on tape in timelapse mode.
But, HD-SDI will be non-timelapse mode.

If you set the nanoFlash to record in timelapse mode, then this has no effect in how the camera operates or records.

You can record timelapse in the nanoFlash, while recording normally in your camera.

Robin Probyn April 6th, 2010 06:16 AM

Hi Dan

Ok great thanks.. all good info..

Remove pull down... is this restoring footage that has pull down applied to it... as the wording implies..?? eh 23.98p back to true 24P.. or is it applying pull down..???

My HDX900 although set to 24p will give 23.98... as with 30p.. will give 29.98 .. in 59.94 system mode..

Would I need to tick remove pull down shooting 24p or 30p.. ?

Thanks again

Piotr Wozniacki April 6th, 2010 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Keaton (Post 1510456)
You can record timelapse in the nanoFlash, while recording normally in your camera.

Or vice versa - is that right?

Dan Keaton April 6th, 2010 06:31 AM

Dear Piotr,

Yes, either device can record normal or timelapse while the other records normal or timelapse.

Dan Keaton April 6th, 2010 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin Probyn (Post 1510459)
Hi Dan

Ok great thanks.. all good info..

Remove pull down... is this restoring footage that has pull down applied to it... as the wording implies..?? eh 23.98p back to true 24P.. or is it applying pull down..???

My HDX900 although set to 24p will give 23.98... as with 30p.. will give 29.98 .. in 59.94 system mode..

Would I need to tick remove pull down shooting 24p or 30p.. ?

Thanks again


Dear Robin,

On most cameras, when recording 24p, or 23.98, or 23.96, extra, duplicated frames are added to create 59.94 or 60 PSF (Progressive Segmented Frames). This process is known as adding Pulldown.

When you check Pulldown Removal, we remove these duplicated frames prior to recording.

As far as I know, you would only check the Pulldown Removal box for 24p, 23.98, or 23.976 footage.

30p or 29.97p will not have duplicated frames, thus you do not need to check Pulldown Removal.

I welcome comments and corrections in case I have any of this wrong, or if anyone can explain this better.


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