Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

Each day I use the 7Q along with the new firmware, I slowly am getting up to speed. Ok, maybe better to say I suck slightly less each new day, lol.

I have always used PP 4 set to Slog2 when shooting in RAW. So what is this Picture Profile 7 thing all about? Is it just that it defaults to Slog2 so one needn't go to submenu in other picture profiles? Or is something different about PP7?

Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

I find that the hide function should work a bit different. The video or menu unhides too easily with the slightest touch! Most times when I want to reposition the screen I accidently activate one or more functions... That is really annoying. The hide function should also take out any function. I suggest to reveal with a 2-3 seconds touch&hold or even better only in a small specific area. And to cover the ones that not have read the manual: with a touch, only display shortly a message like "touch&hold lower right corner for buttons"

Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

Dear Dave,

The Picture Profile 7 is a neutral Picture Profile, with the Gamma set to S Log 2.

We want a neutral Picture Profile.

And for best images, we like the S-Log 2, but we realize that this is not what everyone wants, meaning that they want images that do not need a LUT (Look Up Table) applied in post.

Respectfully,

Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

Dan,

thank you for your reply.

I missed that new feature in latest fw of being able to switch off the video stream and not only hide menus.

I need to test this, but I still suspect we could save more juice by using one of the hardware buttons (F1) to totally switch off the LED. That way I could also immediately have the 7Q ready for action within the press of a button again (or even record without the LED switched on!??).

Since the F1 locks the screen, it might as well switch if completely off ! - This could at least be an option to choose how to use the F1 button. I hope you get time to look into this and test if it is possible.

I am using original genuine Sony 970 and 770 batteries on the 7Q.

When I close the LCD lid on the FS700 it barely use any power, so wish I could have a similar ability on the 7Q.

Yes the menu system you suggest could be one way, though I would also like to have the 1080 HD ProRes option available also under FS700, even if this is a general option available for several cameras.

Also customizable shortcuts to 2 modes would be very convenient.
I could replace the OLED soft button with RAW, and GUIDE or LUT with ProRes.

Yes I shoot a lot of slomo, that seem to be the hype these days! ;) - Both 2K 240, but mostly 4K 120.
BTW! Could the FS700 higher frame rates in 2K/HD ever be possible with the 7Q (480fps/960fps). (Sorry for luring in this extra question)

Thank you for considering my suggestions.

Keep up your hard work!

Ole

Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

Dear Ole,

Since we are using an OLED panel, having the menu's on draws very little power, and the Menu items are, on purpose, not very bright, also reducing power.

If we were using an LCD, with a backlight, then switching the backlight off would save power.

Note that some, with the screen locked, some will still want to see the image and timecode, and see when it is recording. This mode allows one to hand the unit to someone, but the unit is protected from inadvertent menu changes.

We intend, later, to add some programmable functions to our F1 and F2 mechanical keys (on the side of the unit).


A genuine Sony NP-F970 battery, in good condition, works fine. Beware of counterfeits, as these are small capacity batteries with extra weights inside to make them heavier.

If you are about to purchase a Sony NP-F970, check the blister pack. If it is sturdy, it is probably a genuine Sony battery, if it is thin, it is not. On many counterfeits, the hologram is in the wrong place.

The Sony NP-F770 battery is underpowered for this application, thus this may be the source of some of the problems. We do not recommend using this battery, especially for anyone shooting in 2K, 240fps.


Our engineers are working on two major, very significant firmware releases right now.

As soon as we can find the time, we may be able to engineer an very low power standby mode.

We have the ability to turn off part of the circuits, powering only what we have to have on.



After posting my reply, I spoke with our engineer that is in charge of the menu system.

He is working on a solution, we discussed various options. We may or may not have some changes in our very next release. At the time of my post, the new firmware was in final testing, so it may not get in.

I believe I understand the point of your proposal. You want to be able to, very easily, for a specific camera, to be able to go into, in your case, FS700 Raw, and FS700 4K Raw to Apple ProRes HD modes.

I will discuss this with our team. We do need the OLED and Guide functionality.

If you select, in our Setup|Monitor -> Record menu, our 4:2:2 -> ProRes HD mode, then you can put your Sony FS700 in HD, Super Slow Mode, and the Odyssey7Q can record any of these special, high-speed modes up to 960 fps.

Just be aware that, in these modes, the HD output is not 12-Bit, and that the image quality is not as good as the 2K Raw, 12-Bit modes. In the 2K Raw modes, the image quality remains the same, even at 240 fps (but, of course you need more light when the minimum shutter speed is 1/250th of a second).

In the HD, Super Slow Modes, as you increase the frame rate, the image quality goes down, as the sensor is windowed (less than all of the photosites of the sensor are used when in this mode).

To state this differently, 960 fps is not the same image quality at HD at 60 fps, and none of these HD modes are the quality of the 2K Raw, and 4K Raw is the best quality. That is why we developed the 4K Raw to Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) mode. The later mode has been very well received.

Respectfully,

Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

Again thanks Dan.

I was not aware of the 480/960 ability with the 7Q, I know quality is not the same as 240 and/or RAW, but definitely nice to have this option.

I did not mean to permanently replace LUT or GUIDE, but if it was possible to customize these soft buttons, I am sure other users would find other usage as well as my shortcuts :)

Will try the hide video function with the O7Q.

Thanks,
Ole

Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

Dear Ron,

We can consider your suggestions.

We have to be very careful to ensure that if one invokes the Hide function that they have an easy way to unhide it, otherwise this could interfere with a shoot.

But, your suggestions address that issue.

You could use the Screen Lock function prior to repositioning the unit.

Respectfully,

Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

Dan, just as a suggestion, I noticed that when I am positioning the image around the screen, a finger contact movement causes the image to move in the opposite direction of how images move in iPhones from finger swipes.

Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

Dear Dave,

If you update to our latest firmware, 2.11.110, then you have a choice over how it works.

One of the two options should feel natural.

Press and hold the Zoom Icon to see the options.

Respectfully,

Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

Dan,

Here a few of my request for future feature updates:

1). Color frame/guide lines
2). Shaded areas outside frame/guild lines
3). Put monitor into power save mode while connected to a video signal.
4). Center mark cross hairs.

Love the new features CD has added. Can't wait for multi-cam recording. Thanks for such a great product.

Brian

Re: Odyssey Feature Request
 

Dear Brian,

It is very nice to hear that you like our Odyssey7Q.

Thank you for your suggestions.

We have been discussing ways to improve our frame/guide lines. We will take your suggestions into consideration.

And the center mark would be a nice addition.

For Item 3, I assume that you want us to power down, as much as possible, when desired, while the camera is still on. This would require some action on your part to "wake up" the unit again.

I assume that you want to keep your camera on, but put the Odyssey7Q to sleep to save power.

I also assume that you would want us to keep the touch screen alive so that any touch would restore normal operation.

(We would want the "Wake Up" process to be as intuitive as possible, in case someone accidentally enters the "Sleep Mode".)

Respectfully,