alright try this one... MP4 (main concept from Vegas 8.1) VBR 20mb peak, 10mb average. It wouldn't let me do a 2 pass render.

I think it came out better. I sure the sound is messed up as I didn't change the settings for that.

YouTube - Carving Jack HD

Youtube now capable of 720p
 

Youtube is now capable of of showing 720p-content. If there's a 720p-version of a particular clip, you have to append &fmt=22 to the url to see it.
Here is an example I shot with my ex1:
YouTube - Filips Diplomkonzert

sounds great! & looks great as well! gotta say... I'm a little surprised w/ youtube!

I uploaded my first 720p file to Youtube yesterday as a test. Went smoothly, and looks very good. This takes Youtube from a toy to a legit contender for shorts for me. And no pesky "upload one HD file a week" stuff like Vimeo. Though I do really like Vimeo.

Good stuff from Youtube!

If YouTube keeps it free with unlimited uploads, that will really hurt Vimeo and their silly Plus service...

The only issue with Youtube, is the 10 minute length limit. For those doing longer-form projects like I have to do, it's a huge limitation. For basic shorts, or other fun things, it's just fine.

Good to see EX1 720p video on YouTube. Thanks for that.

Right now Vimeo has the advantage in
No 10 minute limit.
Ability to download source.
Ability to password protect file as needed.

YouTube Advantage
720p30 vs Vimeo 720p24
No limit to HD uploads compared to 1 per week for Vimeo free.
No per week upload limit compared to 500MB for Vimeo free and 2GB for Vimeo Plus $60.
YouTube's 1GB file upload limit means you can upload a higher data rate single file than with Vimeo free's 500MB for the entire week.
YouTube generally will mean your file will get more views due to discovery.

I think YouTube has the lead.

you don't need &fmt=22 anymore. They have a "Watch in HD" link on the bottom of the video now. Oh and I found out even though you pay for have 2 gb per week on vimeo, no single file can be larger than 1gb.

So what I'm seeing is that some videos have Normal and High Quality and others have Normal and HD. Basically they all have Normal Quality and the other setting is either Hight Quality or HD depending on the file uploaded.

So if the video is HD it will be offered as an option. No special code needed. Thanks for spotting that.

Dang that is the sharpest thing I've ever seen on Youtube. Now I just need FiOS for the extra bandwidth and life will be grand indeed.

Verizon FiOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Noah

It's also great for tutorial-videos:
YouTube - high-quality HD to SD-DVD conversion with FCP

Too bad you can't get the higher quality recording when you embed it - nobody is really helping with that as far as I know. Well, maybe Exposure Room, but certainly YouTube and Vimeo drop the quality on embedded files.

Maybe one of you know of a workaround - love to hear it...

Here is some useful information on embedding options:

http://generalspecialist.com/2008/09...ps-in-high.asp

This was written before HD was an option (last week?), but I would think you could simply replace &fmt=18 with &fmt=22 and achieve the same embedding result, only in HD.

I just threw up this little ditty and I'm stunned at the quality (or maybe my expectations were so low?) Shot with an EX1, of course. Watch it full-screen for best results :)

YouTube - A Day at Big Spring Park in Huntsville, AL

One key advantage to Vimeo is the ability to "replace video" -- to upload a replacement video file without having to recreate the entire page, etc. I really wish that YouTube would add this option.

Success!

Bill, I replaced the URL portions of the embed code with this:

http://www.youtube.com/v/zBFi_P9x9C4...ap=%2526fmt=22

It embedded great!

I opted for 640x360 for rapid downloads for people, but you have to add 28 pixels to the height for the progress bar, so I changed the dimensions to 640 and 388 in both locations.

This will really help me for a project I'm working on. Of course, in my project, I'll use my own video and not Bills!

This is great news!

HA, cracked it! This was a CBR 2 pass WMV 10mbps. The audio is fine (VBR screws up the audio). I think maybe a little more BR to clear up the compression artifacts.

YouTube - Redline Revolt buggy Dumont Dunes

This is an HDR SR11 BTW.

HA, cracked it! This was a CBR 2 pass WMV 10mbps. The audio is fine. I think maybe a little more BR to clear up the compression artifacts.

YouTube - Redline Revolt buggy Dumont Dunes

This is an HDR SR11 BTW.

It seems YouTube have not only caught up with the quality of vimeo and exposure room, they've substantially raised the bar!

I still prefer XR for embedding video because the YT player's functionality is really invasive, but it sure looks good!

YouTube goes HD | Paul Joy

Paul.

You do NOT need to append &fmt=22
They now offer HD as a playback option normally. See my previous post. Depending on what what you've uploaded

Normal or High Quality
Normal or HD

True, but Normal is the default and most people I've observed thus far don't notice or don't bother with High Quality or HD option. Normal is so bad, appending the extra tag, either in a link or embedded, insures they watch the version I prefer.

I know you can set local playback preferences for High Quality/HD, but afaik, no way to push it as the default on the YT site (or am I missing something?).

Certainly making me rethink my hosting options as well as for my clients.

Youtube Now Supports HD!
 

actually amazing quality! check it out and be sure to click the link on the bottom of the video screen that says "watch in HD"

YouTube - HD Test *The Dark Knight* 1080p Source

Some of my videos have been automatically converted and they look absolutely amazing.

ie. YouTube - Canon XHA1 Skateboarding in SLOW MOTION 60fps *HIGH DEFINITION*

YouTube Terms of Service
 

Just remember...

6C. For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions. However, by submitting User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its successors' and affiliates') business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the YouTube Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service. The above licenses granted by you in User Videos terminate within a commercially reasonable time after you remove or delete your User Videos from the YouTube Service. You understand and agree, however, that YouTube may retain, but not display, distribute, or perform, server copies of User Submissions that have been removed or deleted. The above licenses granted by you in User Comments are perpetual and irrevocable.

YouTube Terms of Service
 

Just Remember...

6C. For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions. However, by submitting User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its successors' and affiliates') business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the YouTube Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service. The above licenses granted by you in User Videos terminate within a commercially reasonable time after you remove or delete your User Videos from the YouTube Service. You understand and agree, however, that YouTube may retain, but not display, distribute, or perform, server copies of User Submissions that have been removed or deleted. The above licenses granted by you in User Comments are perpetual and irrevocable.

And for Vimeo:

By submitting your Submission to VIMEO, you hereby grant VIMEO and its affiliates, successors and assigns a worldwide, perpetual, non-exclusive, irrevocable, royalty-free, sub-licensable (through multiple tiers) and transferable license (with a right to create derivative works) to use, copy, transmit or otherwise distribute, perform, modify, incorporate into other works, publicly perform and display your Submission or any portion thereof, in or through any medium, whether now known or hereafter created. VIMEO shall be entitled to unrestricted use of any Submission for any purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without compensation to the submitter.

Bill you're right about that. As a viewer mine defaults to HD.

A nice YouTube feature would be to have one's video default to the highest quality rather than the lowest.

As someone presenting stuff to clients I'd always include the HD link and some may want that as part of "discovery" (viral) too.

You can embed the YouTube HD quality. Generally I recommend uploading to their own website directly (I am a compressionist after all) though but not everyone has the time or the ability to do that.

YouTube might be able to make some money (or cut their losses) if you could pay to not have their logo on your site.

In some cases the above is not a bad thing. It depends what you're uploading and why.

If you're doing viral (marketing something) then one might actually WANT them to spread your stuff far and wide.

Keep in mind that one can ALWAYS compress and post stuff to your own site which is what I recommend to my clients. What YouTube offers is viral opportunity in addition to the server space, bandwidth, no need to do your own compression. Vimeo doesn't have the "eyes" to get the viral opportunity nor does it allow commercial posting. B&H, for example, wouldn't have the option of using Vimeo at all.

If you're an "artist" YouTube can certainly increase your work's chance of "accidental" discovery. Vimeo used to have a big quality edge and that's gone (except that it defaults to HD).

YouTube does not have a 500MB or 1 HD upload weekly limit that Vimeo has for free accounts.
YouTube does not have a 2GB weekly limit that Vimeo has for $60/yr accounts and YouTube is free.
YouTube presents as 720p30 (NTSC) or 720p25 (PAL). Vimeo drops frames (badly I might add) and plays at 720p24.
Vimeo does not have the 10 minute duration limit that YouTube has though.
Vimeo allows password protection if something needs to be screened privately.
Vimeo allows the viewer to download the source file if the uploader permits it.

Guys I have been uploading 1080i 25p files on our IPTV site for months now and there is so much bullshit around about HD at the moment so you tubes 720p is not true HD in any means.

It is all down to IP bandwidth and if you want most people to view your content you need to be maxing at around 1mbs any more and it will judder and stutter on payback.

Our IPTV test site is using 1080i 25p masters in pro res 422 res downscaled to flash at 1mbs 25fps with keyframes 50 per sec. This is the best compromise at the moment and will play on broadband at around 1mbs average.

Check out our quality at:

iNorthEast.tv

Gary, YouTube HD is 1280x720p30 (or 25 PAL). I haven't tested the bandwidth but others have and report about 2mb/s.

My own download rate is 30mbs (yes you read that right) so I don't get any stuttering at all.
In my area the base (lowest) level service plans (DSL) are 1mb/s

Typical DSL in my area
1mbs
3mbs
7mbs

Cable Modem
5mbs
15mbps
30mbps

FIOS is at the upper end of Cable Modems speeds and faster but not widely installed yet.

Basically all but the slowest broadband connections can handle 2mbs without issue.
Anyone can use the "normal" quality on YouTube if they can't watch HD.

720p25 at 2mbs is going to look better than 1080p25 at 1mbs. Maybe you don't consider 720 HD?

same video, same file, all three major sites.. CBR 15kbps WMV 314mb filesize.

http://www.exposureroom.com/members/...72e53d7b22b1d/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93tX8ezdBis&fmt=22

http://www.vimeo.com/2459943

I had some issues with playback of my first HD YouTube video. I think my data rate (12000kbps) is way too high. Any recommendations?

I'm going to test some 1280x720/30p native shooting soon. I loved the "A Day at Big Spring Park, Huntsville, AL" video but man does it take a long time to download HD stuff off YouTube. It's almost like watching TV now though!

Generally I find 1280x720 5000kbps using H.264 Multipass in Apple Compressor works perfectly for upload. If using another compression app make sure its a 2 Pass VBR encode.
Even using other codecs like WMV shouldn't need that much more data rate. H264 is best for quality and file size efficiency.

The data rates people are mentioning here see way too high but then again as long as you're under the 1GB file size limit you should be OK. Maybe there's something about YouTube's compression software that doesn't like high data rates.

just trying to keep the video as clean as I can... I tried using other formats but the sound keeps messing up once youtube has it's way with it.

the world is changing =D. can u imagine streaming HD to your front projector?

now all they need to work on is streaming lossy or lossless 7.1 surround sound, then we'll have true VOD across the internet =P

no more blurays ;)

Facebook now has HD. It looks a little better than Vimeo.

they changed it again, now when you click on "watch it in HD" the frame gets bigger...

YouTube - Moon Rising 15th Dec 08

EDIT: too bad youtube is practically USELESS for sharing HD video. Their servers are so bad it takes nearly as long to watch as video as it does to upload one. Even if I use the &fmt=22 code.. My videos take FOREVER to load (when trying to watch one). Over an hour sometimes.

Started playing near instant for me. It seems when the HD was uploaded is not significant
I uploaded this in August.
YouTube - Rebel Diaz - 2 Wars - For Rosa Clemente / Cynthia McKinney

Sorry Craig my computer won't load it. I get about a second of video for every minute of waiting. All the other video sites load super fast BTW.. only youtube is slow and if you do a search for "why is youtube so slow" on google or youtube you will see that I am not alone...

try one of mine and see how it loads..

YouTube - 40$ Steadicam (home made)

Took about 6 seconds to load and come up. I let it buffer for 15 seconds and then it plays well.

Well me and a apparently loads of others are having serious trouble. I tried it on another computer and the same thing happen.

Aww well, vimeo and exposure room are really quick.