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David C. Williams February 25th, 2011 07:13 PM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk Candlish (Post 1622192)
While also increasing throughput. It's faster than eStata, so it's not just incorporating it into a single cable.

Thunderbolt has greater bandwidth than eSata, yes, but it can't magically speed up a single eSata based drive. It carries the eSata signal, that's all. The current Thunderbolt controller sits on a 4xPCI-e bus, that's the limit.

Thunderbolt isn't an I/O protocol, so you cannot make a Thunderbolt drive. It carries existing signals.

Kirk Candlish February 25th, 2011 07:49 PM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
I wasn't saying it could affect the drive, not sure how that would be implied in my comment. The limitation is, as you said, the 4xPCI-e bus.

David C. Williams February 25th, 2011 08:56 PM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
Well that's what you said. "While increasing through put"

Kirk Candlish February 25th, 2011 09:33 PM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
Yes, to the bus.

David C. Williams February 25th, 2011 10:25 PM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
What your suggesting makes no sense? It not speeding up any device, so there's no increase in throughput for anything. It won't increase the speed of an eSata to the PCI-e bus in any way. It just encapsulates the bus data and sends it down an optical fibre to be de-encapsulated at the other end and put on to another PCI-e bus.

How does that "increase throughput"?

Nigel Barker February 26th, 2011 05:28 AM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
At the bottom of this page there's a video showing a demo of Thunderbolt in use on a new MBP connecting a Promise RAID array & monitor. It's pretty impressive performance. Intel Thunderbolt: a closer look (updated with video) -- Engadget

Michael Wisniewski February 26th, 2011 07:17 AM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
Thanks Nigel, that video put a big smile on my face. Now I'm thinking of all kinds of ways to max out the Thunderbolt technology.

Bob Willis February 26th, 2011 08:29 AM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
Thunderbolt Device:
LaCie is the premier manufacturer of high quality digital storage.

This is more than just a cable. 2 Bi-directional 10Gb/s channels. Now that is increased throughput.

800 MB/s of performance

http://www.promise.com/storage/raid_...sn1=40&rsn3=47

Andrew Clark February 27th, 2011 03:48 AM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
So this should work the same when using with Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit (via BootCamp of course)....right?

Nigel Barker February 27th, 2011 04:17 AM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
Microsoft would have to support Thunderbolt in Windows first & the 3rd-party manufacturers would have to write drivers for their devices. I am sure if Intel have their way this will happen but I don't think that there is any support at present.

Dom Stevenson February 28th, 2011 02:46 PM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
I'm interested in the 13" MBP. Any ideas how much of a difference the integrated graphics card would be compared to the 15" AMD standalone card?

I'd rather save the cash and get a nice monitor and thunderbolt friendly external HD than pay the extra 500 quid for the 15.

Zach Love March 1st, 2011 01:20 PM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
I'd be interested in this too.

I opted for a 13" at work since I have a Mac Pro which I'm at for 90% of the editing I do & knew that 90% of the work I'll do on the laptop won't be long hours of editing, so I wanted something that was a little smaller & easier to carry around.

My personal computer is an older 15" MBP, which is excellent, but I do like the smaller size of the 13".

When I upgrade my personal laptop, I'll have to decide if I want the portability (& extra cash) or if I want the higher quality video card, so it'd be great to see how great the advantages are for the money.

Kirk Candlish March 1st, 2011 01:29 PM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
You guys can easily find reviews of the new MBPs all over the net. A good place to start would be macworld.

Kirk Candlish March 1st, 2011 10:31 PM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
appleinsider has a good article on the new MBPs.

One quote from there:

"Thunderbolt is like a very fast FireWire, with an improved connector, high resolution external display support, and more electrical power, with support for Target Mode booting and the ability to bridge other interfaces, including Ethernet and USB. "

Worth the time to read and a good site for lots of information.

Jonathan Shaw March 3rd, 2011 11:30 PM

Re: Apple's Thunderbolt for the video editor.
 
I was literally about to purchase a Thecus RAID tower which would connect via ethernet. Do you guys reckon that Thunderbolt will have a big take up and will it be that much better performance??? Lots of if's and maybe's I know.


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