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Simon Wyndham August 22nd, 2006 03:53 PM

Well, another problem with the greys is that they also brought new diseases with them that also affect other species of the native wildlife over here.

Not only that, but they are a pest.

Steve House August 23rd, 2006 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon Wyndham
Well, another problem with the greys is that they also brought new diseases with them that also affect other species of the native wildlife over here.

Not only that, but they are a pest.

That's just what I'm talking about so I gotta ask, why is a Grey squirrel a pest and a Red squirrel not? They both occupy the same environmental niche and AFAIK do pretty much the same squirrely things - so what is the difference besides cosmetics and regional pride?

Daniel J. Wojcik August 23rd, 2006 06:16 AM

Also, from what I've read, they didn't bring "new" diseases with them. It's just that the normal squirrel diseases don't kill them as easily as they kill the red ones, so rather than decently dying, they are spreading the pox around and the reds are taking it on the chin.

Simon Wyndham August 23rd, 2006 06:22 AM

Well, I like squirrels to have a bit of colour in them. British weather is grey enough as it is without the wildlife taking on the same tones!

Ben Scott August 23rd, 2006 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve House
That's just what I'm talking about so I gotta ask, why is a Grey squirrel a pest and a Red squirrel not? They both occupy the same environmental niche and AFAIK do pretty much the same squirrely things - so what is the difference besides cosmetics and regional pride?

Again, that's like judging their right to survive by determining their value to us. I think that's kinda the wrong way to look at it.

Because of our actions in introducing the grey to these shores, an indiginous species will become extinct. We really shouldn't let that happen.

Wow. I never in my life thought I'd have an argument about squirrels. lol


Ben
PS. Greys smoke crack and mug old ladies in parks.

Steve House August 23rd, 2006 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Scott
Again, that's like judging their right to survive by determining their value to us. I think that's kinda the wrong way to look at it.

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Actually thats what I think I think the "anti-greys" are doing, saying "We prefer Reds so we'll combat the greys" rather than saying "reds, greys - let nature take its course"

Simon Wyndham August 23rd, 2006 10:45 AM

But it isn't nature taking its course. Its someone artificially introducing the greys.

The grey isn't supposed to be here. We've got enough American culture over here as it is. At least let us keep our damn squirrels!

Kevin Richard August 23rd, 2006 12:25 PM

Yeah, that is the end all to this... it's artificial... as a scientist you should understand that and be against it. If it was natures way then I would be on your side 100% but this isn't nature this is man screwing nature up.

Ben Scott August 23rd, 2006 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve House
Actually thats what I think I think the "anti-greys" are doing, saying "We prefer Reds so we'll combat the greys" rather than saying "reds, greys - let nature take its course"

But the fact the greys are there at all is nothing to do with nature.

Unless the greys learned to swim the atlantic on their own....

K. Forman August 23rd, 2006 01:35 PM

Where do you think Thor Hiedahl got the idea for the Kon Tiki? It was the great Grey Squirrel migration, using tiny rafts made of reeds...

Daniel J. Wojcik August 24th, 2006 01:31 AM

The greys escaped from the London Zoo. Oops.

On the other hand, some idiot brought starlings to the 'States on purpose.

George Ellis August 24th, 2006 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel J. Wojcik
The greys escaped from the London Zoo. Oops.

On the other hand, some idiot brought starlings to the 'States on purpose.

And English Sparrows.

Edit - Hey, that means we still owe them one more... ;)

Daniel J. Wojcik August 24th, 2006 06:00 AM

Gila Monsters

And, who knows, maybe they'd take care of the squirrel problem. :^)

Ben Scott August 24th, 2006 10:14 AM

What are the English sparrows doing?

They don't really do anything at all over here. Maybe they're emboldened by living it up in the land of the free.


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