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John S. Cooper May 18th, 2009 02:38 PM

It looks nice, but those it not make any sounds? It seams to me like it would be "sliding" sounds whit that construction. And how well do it slides?

Matthew Roddy May 20th, 2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncan Craig (Post 1128281)
Does anyone know what the hi-hat type bowl is in this picture on the glidetrack website? http://www.glidetrack.com/images/007%20(Small).jpg

Duncan

edit Alistair has told me it's this: Manfrotto 325N 100mm Bowl Interface (MN325N) - Warehouse Express

Here you go:
Manfrotto by Bogen Imaging | 325N Video Head Adapter Bowl | 325N

Jeff Anselmo May 26th, 2009 07:04 PM

Hi Folks,

Just an update: went ahead and ordered from Igus today.

Really wanted the Pocket Dolly from Kessler, but couldn't scrape enough pennies for it.

Will need the assistance of my father in law to jimmy up the dolly to the tripod.

I'll try and post back when I get the delivery, and have the dolly setup.

Best,

Jeff Anselmo June 12th, 2009 10:05 PM

Hi Folks,

Received the Igus parts the last week of May; but wasn't able to set it all up until recently. I'm really a clutz at tools (a hack at best :), so had my father in law help me out.

Here are the results:

DIYDolly_01 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I did take it out and shot our backyard on the HV30, but I've yet to capture the footage in the NLE. I even tried it with the XL2. And let me tell you, my heart was palpitating every time I reached near the end of the dolly track!

Best,

Robin Davies-Rollinson June 13th, 2009 05:06 AM

Glad you've put it together at last, BUT, - you have to make end stops for it!!!

Jeff Anselmo June 13th, 2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin Davies-Rollinson (Post 1157978)
Glad you've put it together at last, BUT, - you have to make end stops for it!!!

You are so right Robin! Right now, I have four pieces of rubber bands, two at either end, "stopping" the camera from sliding off :)

BTW, I plan on changing tripod heads, and only have owned a Libec. I use the Manfrotto legs (as seen in the pics), but want to know if Manfrotto/Bogen heads screw on the carriage truck easily. (My Libec H22 has a 2 inch long bolt that will not screw onto the carriage.) I was checking out the 701HDV head as they're inexpensive (but probably won't support the weight of an XL2); but I may need to get the 501HDV head instead? Or do you think your Velbon can support the weight?

Best,

Robin Davies-Rollinson June 14th, 2009 05:19 AM

Jeff,
Funny you should mention the 701 head, since I took delivery of it last week!
It's very good for the price, and I am now using it on the Velbon legs for the little Canon HF10. The Velbon head is now on the slider - and I have a Manfrotto 75mm half-ball permanently screwed onto the slider. This lets me put it straight onto the 525 legs (still with me?) and makes it very easy to level the whole thing.
I'm keeping the 503 head available for use on the 525 legs only. Everything has now got a Manfrotto plate or adapter fitted (even the Velbon) so everything is quickly interchangeable.
As for your questions, The Manfrotto heads have a 3/8ths hole, so depending on what screw you have on the carriage plate, you may need an adapter.
As for the question about weight, I've used my FX1 on the Velbon head, but it doesn't balance very well, so I guess that it would be the same for your XL1.

Jeff Anselmo June 14th, 2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin Davies-Rollinson (Post 1158305)
Jeff,
Funny you should mention the 701 head, since I took delivery of it last week!
It's very good for the price, and I am now using it on the Velbon legs for the little Canon HF10. The Velbon head is now on the slider - and I have a Manfrotto 75mm half-ball permanently screwed onto the slider. This lets me put it straight onto the 525 legs (still with me?) and makes it very easy to level the whole thing.
I'm keeping the 503 head available for use on the 525 legs only. Everything has now got a Manfrotto plate or adapter fitted (even the Velbon) so everything is quickly interchangeable.
As for your questions, The Manfrotto heads have a 3/8ths hole, so depending on what screw you have on the carriage plate, you may need an adapter.
As for the question about weight, I've used my FX1 on the Velbon head, but it doesn't balance very well, so I guess that it would be the same for your XL1.

I'm kinda thinking of the same setup (unless I'm visualizing something completely different :)--which is to have the dolly track mounted on a tripod and fluid head, then mount another fluid head on the carriage. Hmmm...I'm also thinking I'm going to kindly request for photos of you current setup :)

The current legs I'm using is an old Bogen photog tripod (# 3221), which is strong enough for the dolly/carriage/HV30 setup; but wobbly (and heart stopping) with the extra added weight of the XL2. I have a Libec (75mm bowl) tripod that I'd like to use, but would need an adapter to screw onto the dolly track. Can you recommend one?

Best,

Robin Davies-Rollinson June 14th, 2009 10:55 AM

Jeff,
I'm thinking that you one pan/tilt head too many in the equasion :-)
If you use the Libec legs with a 75mm bowl, then you could attach the slider to this:
Manfrotto by Bogen Imaging | 520BALL 75mm Half Ball | 520BALL

You can keep the top flat part permanently on the slider by screwing it into a large 3/8" nut - and then drop the ball part into the bowl and level it and tighten. Easy!

Jeff Anselmo June 14th, 2009 12:09 PM

That's exactly what I'm looking for! Thanks Robin for that link.

Might have to consider the 501HDV head to screw onto the carriage, to support the weight of the XL2.

Best,

Peter Damo July 17th, 2009 12:57 AM

I located pretty much the same rails and carriage here in Australia if anyone is interested.
For a 36" rail and 100mm (sorry about cross measurements) carriage, the cost is around AUSD$370. They are available from Treotham - Treotham Automation in Brookvale. Tel: 02-9907 1788

Stefan Bartelski July 19th, 2009 06:48 PM

DIY Slider - cost?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Anselmo (Post 1148742)
Hi Folks,

Just an update: went ahead and ordered from Igus today.

Really wanted the Pocket Dolly from Kessler, but couldn't scrape enough pennies for it.

Will need the assistance of my father in law to jimmy up the dolly to the tripod.

I'll try and post back when I get the delivery, and have the dolly setup.

Best,

Looks very good, but how much did you end up spending?

Jeff Anselmo July 22nd, 2009 09:48 PM

Hi Stefan,

I think I ended up paying something like $158 (US dollars, including the shipping) for the dolly and carriage parts. (Then maybe a few more extra dollars for wing nuts and some bolts :)

I've put my DIY dolly on the shelf for a bit cause we've been in post mode the last month or so.

Hope to post up some footage with the dolly in action soon.

Best,

Stefan Bartelski July 24th, 2009 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Anselmo (Post 1175283)
Hi Stefan,

I think I ended up paying something like $158 (US dollars, including the shipping) for the dolly and carriage parts. (Then maybe a few more extra dollars for wing nuts and some bolts :)

I've put my DIY dolly on the shelf for a bit cause we've been in post mode the last month or so.

Hope to post up some footage with the dolly in action soon.

Best,

Thanks for the update

Kees van Duijvenbode August 6th, 2009 06:11 AM

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A few weeks ago, before I read this topic, I happen to run into the Igus rail + slider via a Dutch website and ordered 1.5 mtr. With that I build my own glidetrack. Now I see this topic and thought: I might as well share my findings.
The first (without head) and second (with head) test results can be seen on Vimeo (here and here). I discovered that smooth gliding is something you have to learn and doesn't come by itself. And after a long doubt I rubbed some olive oil to the rails with made it slide like a charm. I now can give the slider a push at one end and it slides 1.5 mtr to the end by itself. And for a simple straight slide I now use a small rubber band with wich I pull the slider (as low as possible).
But I did not succeed yet in sliding and using the head at the same time. I thought that would make it possible to "curve" around the subject. But that needs a lot more practicing I'm afraid. On the fotos is the first setup I tried. In the meantime I bought myself a new Manfrotto tripod with a new head and screwed a few QR adapters here and there so now everything is quick interchangeable. Next to test is with the XHA1 instead of the HV30.


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