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Richard Alvarez February 27th, 2006 11:55 AM

I think the thing to keep in mind, is that this site is not an 'auction site'. It's a discussion forum. The fact that Chris has included a sales area, is a nice perk, that can easily be removed.

Sales sites and auction sites often charge a fee or commision for either membership or sale.

Chris' 'charge' for utilising the sales forum, is a bit of time on the board.

Seems pretty cheap.

But then again, he could just take it away, and have one less headache.

I would miss it, but I wouldn't blame him.

(Yes, I've purchased from members of the forum.)


(And welcome aboard Michael, it's good to have you around.)

Tony Cook February 27th, 2006 01:41 PM

Newbie Perspective.
 
Speaking as a newbie, I would like to be able to buy gear. Eventually (after I've had an opportunity to use my gear for a while) I might want to sell, but for now it would be nice just to see what's out there.

I would feel comfortable sending cash before shipment from long-time members if that's what it would take. It would be benefitial to those who want to sell because there would be more people looking at your ad.

Being new, I have a laundry list of gear that I'm looking for, and would love to pay less for it.

I am a big proponent of the "if you have nothing to say keep quite" rule. Trust me, if you want to avoid alot of useless chit chat and anoying questions you might reconsider the 100 post rule.

(I think my post count is up to 3 now)

Chris Hurd February 27th, 2006 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher Leclair
Just out of curiousity what does it take to qualify? For what I'm gathering it has to do probably with the lenght of time you've been a member? How long is that, a year, 2 years more, less?

Yes as I've stated before, it's length of time as a member. But not two years... more like two months.

Christopher Leclair February 27th, 2006 06:08 PM

Thanks, sounds reasonable. Sorry for all the trouble you are getting over this! It's the bad apples.....

Jack D. Hubbard February 28th, 2006 12:46 AM

Thanks
 
Hi Chris;

You sure are taking a lot of heat on this issue. Time for us all to focus: It is a great forum. What makes it special for me is the ability to exchange information, and to get help, quick. Classifieds are fine, but like Mastercard, exchanging ideas is priceless. You guys have done a great job; my hat is off to you.

Jack

Mick Isdes February 28th, 2006 03:33 AM

Whatever you guys choose I have had nothing but positive transactions here not including the wealth of information.
Thanks DVinfo!

Dino Santoro February 28th, 2006 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack D. Hubbard
Hi Chris;

You sure are taking a lot of heat on this issue. Time for us all to focus: It is a great forum. What makes it special for me is the ability to exchange information, and to get help, quick. Classifieds are fine, but like Mastercard, exchanging ideas is priceless. You guys have done a great job; my hat is off to you.

Jack

I agree completely!

Ken Grohs February 28th, 2006 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd
The "official notice" is located here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=61346

In short, there were two problems. First, a growing number of scam attempts. Second, a large influx of new members coming in for the sole purpose of listing or replying to the Classifieds (no offense intended, but those folks are not the people that I want to attract to this site -- I prefer instead to have members who are into the spirit of friendly, productive community discussions about digital video).

Well I doubt seriously that this will effect the results you're looking for.
If all you're basing access to the Classifieds section on is the number of posts, well it's not too difficult to place a simple response post to dozens of topics in order to meet that requirement.
Then what? Will you have a "quality of post" factor to determine that a person is posting "quality" material instead of just trying to up their post count?

Personally I have been able, by the wonderful capabilities of your site, to obtain several pieces of DV-related equipment from terrific people at prices that didn't put me into the poorhouse, and for that I am truly appreciative!!

I totally agree with prior posts on this topic that it's mainly the "newbies" that are in the greatest need of good equipment at reasonable prices. Not the commercially-established corporate "regulars" that are funded by large companies.

Chris Hurd February 28th, 2006 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Grohs
If all you're basing access to the Classifieds section on is the number of posts...

But that's not all I'm basing it on. I've lost count now of how many times I've said that it also depends on length of time as a registered member. Someone might have only five posts, and still have access to the Classifieds because they've been with us for more than a couple of months.

Ken Grohs February 28th, 2006 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd
But that's not all I'm basing it on. I've lost count now of how many times I've said that it also depends on length of time as a registered member. Someone might have only five posts, and still have access to the Classifieds because they've been with us for more than a couple of months.

Well, I've been a member since January 2005, or 14 months, and I don't have access, so I'm not really sure how long you were referring to.
Seems one needs far "more than a couple of months".

I'm not trying to be a pain. I appreciate your site to the fullest.
Just trying to figure out what the rules are. Realistic clarification would indeed be appreciated, based on the above.

Thanks!

Chris Hurd February 28th, 2006 06:33 PM

According to the forum member database, it says you *do* have access to the Classifieds. Contact me by email and we'll try to sort out what's wrong.

Tyge Floyd March 1st, 2006 08:41 PM

I commend the thought of keeping the classifieds as fraud free as possible. With that in mind, if the latest post I can see is Feb 27th, does that mean I am locked out? If so, I'm deeply disappointed.

Chris Hurd March 2nd, 2006 01:49 AM

No, it just means that the most recent posts haven't yet passed through the moderation que. I'm running them now, so you should be seeing the most recent activity at this time.

John Astad March 3rd, 2006 03:19 PM

Can't Sell or Buy
 
I've really enjoyed the DV Forum here and have learned quite a bit. I'm disheartened to find out now that there is a dark cloud of my new membership since I haven't posted enough posts.

So now I'm possibly a scammer and dishonest person since I haven't reached the 100 post mark. Well I guess I don't get to participate in the DV classifieds for awhile. Where else to go except EBay?

Happy shooting everyone,

John Astad
Santa Fe, Texas

Chris Hurd March 3rd, 2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

So now I'm possibly a scammer and dishonest person since I haven't reached the 100 post mark
I don't understand why everybody thinks they need 100 posts to see the Classifieds forum. That's not the way it works. If you've been a member for more than a month or two, that will get you in even if you have only four or five posts. I've lost track of how many times I've had to clarify this.

We don't consider anybody to be a possible scammer or a dishonest person. All newcomers are automatically assumed to be first-rate, honest, trustworthy folks. Access to the Classifieds is simply a privilege that is extended to those new folks who have chosen to stick around awhile and settle in, as opposed to some people who are just "passing through."

Sure hope that's clear enough,


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