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Tyler Schlombs February 10th, 2008 01:51 PM

Protecting Printed DVDs
 
So I've seen a lot of options on these forums on how to print on DVDs. The lightscribe is only 2 tone. I don't have enough money for thermal. Labels suck. So, I went with inkjet printing directly onto the disc.

Again I looked for options on how to protect DVDs after they've been printed on using an inkjet printer. The one I would like to try is using an acrylic spray to seal and coat the dvd, thus protecting it from water.

Here's my question:

Anybody had any problems with the dvd after doing this? Besides if you spray too much and it coats the information side of the disc. I mean, does the spray screw up the dvd player? When the DVD gets hot is it still in one piece? The sprays are usually flammable.

Thanks for any help.


BTW I used an epson RX595 printer. Prints great, good with scratches, but if my finger is wet at all, the picture smudges pretty bad.

Josh Chesarek February 10th, 2008 04:02 PM

I suggest the Tokyo Yuden Water Shield DVDs. They are only slightly more expensive than a printable DVD and hold up to water and do not smear nearly as easily. I highly recomend them.

Martin Catt February 10th, 2008 04:28 PM

I've used Krylon Matte Finish spray on a couple of ink-jet printed DVD's with good effect. Just laid them on a flat surface and gave a couple of light coats, allowing the previous coat to dry, then rotating the disc before spraying to help even out the final thickness.

In my mind, the biggest problem will be getting an even coating. DVD's spin at a fairly high rate, so if you don't coat them evenly, you can unbalance them, causing vibration during play.

In the end, I decided it was too much trouble for anything but the most critical work. If a client uses one of my DVD's as a coaster, then they deserve a smeared label.

Martin

Bob Thieda February 10th, 2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Chesarek (Post 823856)
I suggest the Tokyo Yuden Water Shield DVDs. They are only slightly more expensive than a printable DVD and hold up to water and do not smear nearly as easily. I highly recomend them.

I just got a spindle of the Water Shields.....haven't tried them yet, but I'm happy to hear a good word about them....

Josh Chesarek February 10th, 2008 05:54 PM

Just did a quick demo of them. This should make you feel better.

http://www.simplethoughtproductions....vd-smear-test/

Bob Thieda February 10th, 2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Chesarek (Post 823932)
Just did a quick demo of them. This should make you feel better.

http://www.simplethoughtproductions....vd-smear-test/

<In my best Darth Vader voice>, "Impressive"

Josh Chesarek February 10th, 2008 06:13 PM

Feel even better then you did before? :-p

Bob Thieda February 10th, 2008 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Chesarek (Post 823940)
Feel even better then you did before? :-p

Well...my only other wish was that they would make a +R version....
I think right now they only have -Rs.....

Josh Chesarek February 10th, 2008 06:32 PM

You are correct as far as I can tell. Granted I have always used -R as it has never failed me for all the numerous people that I have shipped DVDs to from the get go in mid 2003.

Bob Thieda February 10th, 2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Chesarek (Post 823947)
You are correct as far as I can tell. Granted I have always used -R as it has never failed me for all the numerous people that I have shipped DVDs to from the get go in mid 2003.

I've had good luck with the -Rs myself...
I've just had better luck with the +Rs when bitsetting is enabled....

Well, I think we are starting to get off topic now... :)

Josh Chesarek February 10th, 2008 06:57 PM

Indeed. For the topic though, I think the Water Shield DVDs are the best answer. When you have this available I cant see wanting to get a clear lacker spay can and having to carefully coat each DVD when you can just print and go. I imagine the costs are about equal when it is worked out. I am not 100% sure on the cost of the clear coat cans though.

Allen Plowman February 10th, 2008 07:19 PM

I use ritek ridat 8x dvd-r, I print on an epson R260, using CIS and the aftermarket ink. my discs are about 40 cents each. I read this article, and decided to test my ink. i ran warm water over it, and rubbed it with my fingers. a tiny amount of ink came off. I then grabbed the lemony fresh dish detergent, and squirted on enough to do a sink full of dishes, and rubbed that in. I saw a little color in with the lather. after rinsing it all off, and approximately a minute under the faucet total, I dried it with a paper towel, pushing hard. after it dried, it did appear mildly faded compared to an unwashed disc. it is completely readable, all colors appear ok. the disc in my test was printed about 6 months ago. I have not ever noticed any smearing, and I performed this test from curiosity after reading this thread. if anyone wants me to take pictures or anything, I can redo the test.

Josh Chesarek February 10th, 2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Allen Plowman (Post 823970)
I use ritek ridat 8x dvd-r, I print on an epson R260, using CIS and the aftermarket ink. my discs are about 40 cents each. I read this article, and decided to test my ink. i ran warm water over it, and rubbed it with my fingers. a tiny amount of ink came off. I then grabbed the lemony fresh dish detergent, and squirted on enough to do a sink full of dishes, and rubbed that in. I saw a little color in with the lather. after rinsing it all off, and approximately a minute under the faucet total, I dried it with a paper towel, pushing hard. after it dried, it did appear mildly faded compared to an unwashed disc. it is completely readable, all colors appear ok. the disc in my test was printed about 6 months ago. I have not ever noticed any smearing, and I performed this test from curiosity after reading this thread. if anyone wants me to take pictures or anything, I can redo the test.

What is CIS? Googling seems to be a Continuous Ink System?

Could you try doing it with a DVD a few minutes after printing. My biggest problem was the smearing that could happen for the 48 hours before mailing out my disks. The one I did a test on was about an hour old but I have had a similar experience with disk only a few minutes old.

Allen Plowman February 10th, 2008 07:29 PM

your google is correct, it saves me a fortune in ink.
I use a robot to burn my discs, and I prefer the discs to be dry, my concern was having discs stick together. also, I keep burning the same discs, on demand. I print them up weeks in advance, then burn them. That is what suits my needs. I will print two discs, wait 24 hours, and do a test, if that is where your problem is. I am curious myself, and it could help me avoid problems.

Josh Chesarek February 10th, 2008 07:41 PM

Well, the Taiyo Yuden seem to be dried instantly. I just printed out two disks and have stacked them on top of one another and will leave them for the night, will let you know how they turn out tomorrow. I think these disks could solve your problem.


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