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Robert Mann Z. February 10th, 2004 12:49 PM

Pioneer A07 don't buy
 
we just bought one of these and it was a big dissapointment, it comes with ulead burn now software that does not burn discs in the udf 1.02 format...the compatibility just fell off 80%...

if better software comes around i might consider it..we returned it...

Gints Klimanis February 10th, 2004 02:22 PM

Can't you just use your previous burner software or buy Nero?

Jeff Donald February 10th, 2004 04:14 PM

I would highly recommend it for use with Macs. It works great with both Toast and the Mac Disk Utility.

Nicholi Brossia February 10th, 2004 05:15 PM

Figures... I just bought an A06 for my Mac about 2 months ago. Does the full 8x dvd-r work with Toast as well?

Jeff Donald February 10th, 2004 05:45 PM

I don't think 8x media is available yet.

Gints Klimanis February 10th, 2004 06:09 PM

There are a number of people on the DVD UseNet groups that
are having success burning 4x DVD-R at 8x.

Vincent Im February 10th, 2004 09:14 PM

satisfied with A07
 
I recently bought one and am quite satisfied with it.

Robert Mann Z. February 10th, 2004 10:23 PM

Re: satisfied with A07
 
<<<-- Originally posted by Vincent Im : I recently bought one and am quite satisfied with it. -->>>

how are burning your movie dvd files?
do you use a mac or pc...

i should have specified the drive itself is great, but on a pc i have yet to be able to burn a 1.02 udf disc using the supplied software, when new software comes out, maybe it will be useful to me, nero, reel and scenarist are all great at keeping discs compatible by using 1.02 udf...

ulead just doesn't get it...i called pioneer they told me to give it time, new supporting software should be coming out soon, but that helps me very little today...

Vincent Im February 11th, 2004 01:48 AM

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I installed and uninstalled ULead ... it was causing conflicts in my system. I use Nero for burning data and used both Encore and Premier Pro to burn DVD movies.

Rob Lohman February 12th, 2004 04:56 AM

You can buy Nero for as little as 50 euro/USD directly
from their website. I would not say "don't buy the Pioneer" for
the reason that it ships the wrong software with it. Ofcourse it
is definitely something to remember, especially when comparing
products for price/featureset. It is weird that they are shipping
a software package with their product that doesn't support UDF
1.02 indeed. Thanks for the heads up on that.

Robert Mann Z. February 12th, 2004 08:39 AM

Rob,

I already looked into that, Nero does not suport the drive...

did you check the list??

http://www.nero.com/en/recorders.php...ioneer&lang=en

Rob Lohman February 12th, 2004 11:23 AM

I doubt it wouldn't work on the latest Nero version. It will probably
only support 4x burning, but there isn't any 8x media available
(that you can get) anyway. If the latest Nero doesn't actually
work with the drive then it will very shortly.

Keep in mind that the A07 is just out. I read somewhere that
some people actually bought the A07 with Nero 6 Express, so
that should give some confidence.

Robert Mann Z. February 12th, 2004 12:24 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Lohman : I doubt it wouldn't work on the latest Nero version.->>>

i just know it's not listed

<<<-- If the latest Nero doesn't actually
work with the drive then it will very shortly.->>>

well thats kind of my point, what are you going to tell your clients, ummm i just paid over 200 for a dvd drive but i'm waiting for the software?

to me this is a big over sight, i have not seen nero shipping with the new a07 at any outlets near me, i also feel that if i wasn't tech savy and just bought the thing to do home movies i might be a little more then pissed...

Rob Lohman February 12th, 2004 02:14 PM

Very true. That's for sure. For anyone who actually owns one
do try the demo of Nero to see if it works, that way you can
test it before putting down the hard earned cash. Just trying
to get a workable solution. It's definitely a bad thing and will
monitor the progress of Nero on this matter. If anyone has any
test results to add, please do tell.

Nathan Gifford February 12th, 2004 02:23 PM

Your problem with A07 may have more to do with the media you used than the burner. There are lots of media out there that are just dogs...I know I bought some of bowsers...

Robert Mann Z. February 12th, 2004 05:04 PM

nathan what media do you use?

Ed Smith February 13th, 2004 02:58 PM

As mentioned your problem is with the software and not the Burner. Normally people buy a seperate authoring package. But can understand the people who might buy the burner because of the software.

Being the latest technology every software manufacturer will have to change their code slightly for it. Give it a couple of months and i'm sure there'll be patches in the authoring software to accomendate the A07.

ed

Gints Klimanis February 20th, 2004 07:21 PM

So does the A07 do 2x or 4x DVD-RW ? I have no reason to upgrade unless a unit has 4x RW capability. The specs from the Pioneer site say the A07 does 4x in -RW and +RW. I see 4x DVD+RW media for sale. The fastest DVD-RW I've found is 2x.
I read that some sort of DVD committee was waiting to approve a
faster DVD-RW spec. So, does this drive actually do 4x DVD-RW?
Has any tried 4x RW in DVD-RW or DVD+RW? Thanks.

http://www.allmediaoutlet.com
and
http://www.shop4tech.com/

have 4x DVD+RW but only 2x DVD-RW.

Jeff Donald February 20th, 2004 08:01 PM

Sorry, I never use RW's. I've been using 2x and 4x -R's with no problem.

Gints Klimanis February 20th, 2004 08:39 PM

Thanks, Jeff.

I like to use the DVD-RWs for all sorts of DVD experimentation,
especially menu tweaks. So, I'd prefer a really fast solution.
Another drag is that the DVD spec seems to require that a DVD be about 1/3 (maybe 1/4) full at a minimum, or at least that's the case with my authoring tools.

George Ellis March 2nd, 2004 08:45 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Robert Mann Z. : Rob,

I already looked into that, Nero does not suport the drive...

did you check the list??

http://www.nero.com/en/recorders.php...ioneer&lang=en -->>>

Yes, it does support it. You missed that the A07 and 107 are the same thing.

DVD-RW DVR-107D EIDE/ATAPI 8/4xDVD+R/RW, 8/4xDVD-R/RW 24x24 - x x 5.5.10.54+/6.3.0.0E+

So, you need update 5.5.10.54 or 6.3.0.0e .

The A07/107 is probably the best recorder on the market. It ranks really high on error correction on reads. It also entered the market capable of burning at 8x in -r and +r.

Rob Lohman March 3rd, 2004 03:51 PM

That's true indeed. The 107 is OEM model of the A07. Still weird
they haven't put up the A07 on the list when the previous
models are on there. Oh well, probably a glitch.

George Ellis March 3rd, 2004 10:17 PM

I just got my 107 about 2 hours ago. Nero sees it for what it is. I only have 2x media, so that is how DVD-R shows. I will make a burn tonight with Liquid Edition

Robert Mann Z. March 3rd, 2004 11:02 PM

We have had success with a07 and the latest version of nero...Finally...a bit of a maze to go through to get things to come together...

we had some problem with our 4x media burning at 4x so we burned it at 2x, no issues...

what i like about the a07 vs the sony is the ability to burn 1x, when you need it (i'm talking about dvd-r here)

bottom line, unless you want to invest more money on the latest version of nero good luck with the a07, i was so frustrated i returned it only to buy it back again later when nero arrived

when i bought an a03 the supplied software, prassi has zero issues, and worked very pro, this proves that supplied software doesn't have to be an after thought

George Ellis March 4th, 2004 05:01 AM

There is a price war on right now. The 107 (just a drive) can be found a dollar under $130 at a lot of places. ;)

Ted Moores March 4th, 2004 02:57 PM

I see the LaCie external 8x drive w/ Toast 6 is selling for about $250.00. I understand this is the A07 drive. This seems pretty reasonable considerering you get an external drive w/software for Mac. I've heard good things about Toast but I'm not sure how professional looking the finished product is. Any one had experiance w/it?


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