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			<title>Audio for nature videos</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi, 
 
I hope that this is ok to post here as I'm not sure if this belongs in the "All Things Audio" section? 
 
Anyway I have 2 scenarios that hopefully I'll get some ideas into which direction to go down.... 
 
Scenario 1: 
 
For this scenario I've been following 2 videos for ideas and I'm a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
<br />
I hope that this is ok to post here as I'm not sure if this belongs in the &quot;All Things Audio&quot; section?<br />
<br />
Anyway I have 2 scenarios that hopefully I'll get some ideas into which direction to go down....<br />
<br />
Scenario 1:<br />
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For this scenario I've been following 2 videos for ideas and I'm a little lost!<br />
<br />
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The first by Morten Hilmer (Danish wildlife photographer/film maker and vlogger:<br />
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        <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP-1TIhI4BM&amp;t=131s" title="My Sound Recording Setup for Wildlife Photography - YouTube" target="_blank">My Sound Recording Setup for Wildlife Photography - YouTube</a>
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and the second by Petri Koivisto from Finlamd:<br />
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        <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxHJZi1_Go8" title="How I Record Sound for My Nature Films - YouTube" target="_blank">How I Record Sound for My Nature Films - YouTube</a>
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As there are many different ways of doing this I really want to figure out a solid direction to get started. <br />
<br />
One of my ideas was to use a Sound Devices MixPre 3 or 6 linked to a stereo X/Y pair; Morten does this on a T-bar mount while Petri seems to use the Audio Technica BP4025 stereo mic<br />
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I'm not sure what mics would be a good choice for this as my experience is in music studio recording and not live sound or field recording.<br />
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I kinda had a look at a Neumann KM 184 Matched Pair - which is great if your doing overheads for drums but not sure about field recording?<br />
<br />
In terms of directional mic, will any shotgun mic work well? Again the Sennheiser MKE 600 is discussed, but what about something like a Neumann KMR 81 or 82 i?<br />
<br />
Incidentally I have the Sennheiser MKE 400 but haven't used it much, only really for voice overs in terms of narration.<br />
<br />
How would say a large or small diaphragm FET based mic work out in this type of scenario or are there more suited mics?<br />
<br />
Also does polar pattern matter too for this type of application? I guess it depends on preference and what you are trying to do.....<br />
<br />
<br />
Scenario 2:<br />
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A little more complex as for this I wanted to mix and match a group of up to 4 speakers with ambient sounds.<br />
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It would be a single shooter &quot;run and gun&quot; style scenario where you are following 3 - 4 people all hooked up to wileress lav mics in a forest or somewhere.<br />
<br />
Looking at options from DJI, Rhode, Sennheiser etc.... they all have a standard Rx unit with 3.5mm output that can be linked to 2x wireless Tx mics<br />
<br />
(I have the DJI Mic 2 (single) that I use in Bluetooth mode and it is pretty good for speech)<br />
<br />
If using a camera like the Canon R5C which only has a single 3.5mm stereo input, what would be the best way of doing this?<br />
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It seems a little tricky but my current thought was something along the lines of a field-recorder that can take up to 4x jack inputs or 2x jack and 1x 3.5mm aux stereo input<br />
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The MixPre's I think you can get like a sling bag for them which would make them a little clunky for this, while using something like a Zoom H5/6Studio you could belt or pocket clip it (there's a picture on the website showing something like this) then use the 2x lav module for it and then get any external dual lav Tx/Rx combo of choice.<br />
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As a total beginner here with this, how would you then go to rig this all up? As in, taking the Zoom H5/6Studio option... sure it's just a 3.5mm to 1/4&quot; mono jack for the remaining 2x mics but then you need timecode.<br />
By default the Canon has a DIN connector while the Zoom needs bluetooth using an Atomos module or can use a Tentacle SyncE module linked to an audio track... that's fine as you have 2x tracks remaining in the device<br />
<br />
I guess you'd need another SyncE for the Canon too then? so how and where would you place these things?<br />
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Would you just stick them in your pockets or use a cage like something from SmallRig and either screw or zip ties these things somewhere?<br />
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If you wanted to add ambient sounds too, would you then just go ahead and Jam Sync the time code to the MixPre discussed earlier and leave that positioned statically somewhere?<br />
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Maybe I'm over complicating things here but from what I can see this is kind of the best way that I could think of to do this....?<br />
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How useful would timecode be in a situation where you need speed of setup? Neither Morten nor Petri talked about audio/video sync so I'm a little lost here!!<br />
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Any suggestions would be really appreciated :-)</div>

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