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Jake Russell October 4th, 2003 08:37 AM

You will have to choose build & format from dvdsp 1 to write a dvd-video which dragging those folders and clicking burn is not.

If your drive isn't supported you'll need to use Toast Titanium or something. In Toast Ti 5 you'll need to select other > dvd to write a dvd-video and not a dvd data disc.

Becareful though as dvdsp 1 is pretty buggy. Also get a dvd-rw & toast if you want to save a lot of money on those coasters....

Jake

Guest October 4th, 2003 08:49 AM

thanks guys

Charles Papert October 4th, 2003 01:06 PM

Hi James:

They haven't added any steps--they used to have the Digi-Beta master, a Beta dub made for input into the Avid, and a 3/4" made for dailies dubbing, which was done in house and distributed on VHS (I think about 20 copies went out to the various personnel that needed to see dailies). Now they've kep the Digi-beta, switched to DVCam for FCP and the post house makes DVD's of the dailies, so they've saved themselves that step in house.

Again, their goal is to eventually combine the offline and online process by doing most or all of it in house.

I left the show because I've been getting more feature work, and I am moving on from operating to directing. In the meantime I've been dayplaying on other shows as they come up. I loved working on "Scrubs" but episodic television is a grind; 7 months of 13 hour days takes it's toll and I needed to move on.

Rob Lohman October 5th, 2003 05:25 AM

Apple has a page here

Istvan Toth October 5th, 2003 11:47 AM

how can I reduce the file size?
 
I'm desperate
tomorrow I have to bring everyhting to the negative cutter, and I cannot create a quicktime-file because it seems to be too big for the Mac: after 4.95 Gbyte it stopps to convert. The play is 30' so I do need maybe additiona 20% of memory space.

I tried to reduce the quality, the audio (till the horror of 24k, 8bit mono), the resolution 400*300, but the size changes only +/- 5%.

Somebody has an idea?

I'm still using the FCP3 as I didn't want to change during a ongoing project.
Thanks
Istvan

Rob Lohman October 5th, 2003 03:16 PM

You don't need or want to change resolution and audio if
possible at all. Leave that to the last option, unless you are
doing web broadcast. The trick is using a different codec. What
codec are you using now? Most people who want to retain
some quality but also have a high compression level choose
the Sorenson codec (the higher the version you have the
better).

Glenn Chan October 5th, 2003 04:08 PM

MPEG4 video will encode a lot faster than sorenson3, and a bit worse quality.

If you are still getting stuck on quicktime export then try looking for offline media. You will need to reconnect it. If you have offline media then the export will get stuck. Of course, this may not be your problem.

2- Doesn't your negative cutter want an Edit Decision List?

Rob Lohman October 5th, 2003 04:36 PM

Anyone?

Istvan Toth October 5th, 2003 10:49 PM

Thanks for suggestments.
The reason I need it is that the negative cutter wants also a QT-file to create a tape to be able to control the EDL-list (which was created by CinemaTools). The same disire has also the Optical-lab, but one wants it in Betacam the other in VHS-format....:-)

The main problem is that for a very stupid reason I telecined originally on PAL, so I need to reconvert first everything in NTSC, and then create the tape.

I'll try now the other Codecs, maybe they will work better. I have still the whole night to go...

Thanks anyway for help
Istvan

John Locke October 6th, 2003 05:54 AM

Un-partitioning a Mac
 
I just trashed everything once and for all from my Classic environment and am wondering if there's a SAFE way to get rid of that partition as well. Any ideas? FCP is hungry...I need more space!

Justin Morgan October 6th, 2003 06:08 AM

iDVD updates
 
Hi - I've got iDVD 2 which came with my Mac when I bought it. I see on Apple.com that there is now a version 3. Is there a way for me to update from 2 to 3? On the Apple website I can see downlads to update from 2 to 2.1 and from 3 to 3.1 but nothing from 2 to 3. Is there a way of doing this?

Patricia Kim October 6th, 2003 11:38 AM

You have to purchase iDVD 3 separately (comes with the iLife suite) and then you can upgrade to 3.0.1.

Patricia Kim October 6th, 2003 12:10 PM

Have you checked the apple/support/discussion/osx forum - I think it's discussed there, including suggestions for how best to fully back up your material in OSX first.

Dean Sensui October 6th, 2003 01:30 PM

Repartitioning a drive also re-formats the entire drive. So back up everything on all partitions before doing that as you'll lose everything in the process.

Personally, I prefer to set aside a seperate partition for the operating system and applications. Files, which are constantly re-written and modified, will then only fragment one partition and leave the startup partition untouched.

With OS 10, the startup partition has to be fairly large. It seems the OS uses a great deal of space on the drive and I'm not exactly sure why. But I now set it up with at least two gigabytes of free space.

Dean Sensui
Base Two Productions

Glenn Chan October 6th, 2003 04:24 PM

If your version of iDVD works, I would not upgrade. A lot of folks have problems with the newer version.

John Locke October 6th, 2003 05:32 PM

Thanks, guys. I originally had Classic on a partition with 5Gb, then OSX on the big part of the partition.

Since I can't simply swallow up the 5Gb partition without reformatting the entire drive, I'll just leave it there and designate that 5Gb for photos only.

Don Berube October 6th, 2003 06:04 PM

Apple's Soundtrack is way cool!!!
 
I love Soundtrack! I think it offers a lot of valuable music solutions that were never quite available before for the average NLE editor. I found creating music with Soundtrack rather easy and a lot of fun to boot!

Here's a brief sample clip of one groove I created during my first encounter with Soundtrack - without even having to read the manual or consult any help files. It was still a lot of fun to create hehehe
http://noisybrain.com/apple/soundtra...ple_100503.mov

This makes me want to figure out how to create my own Soundtrack samples with my guitar.

http://www.apple.com/soundtrack

- don

Patricia Kim October 6th, 2003 06:51 PM

Check out the discussion forum at apple to get an idea of the problems to which Glenn refers. The other side of the story is someone like myself, who have only owned a camcorder since the beginning of July. I have had very few problems with either iMovie or iDVD and all have been solved - most of them by ensuring as much hard drive space free as possible and by storing projects not in use on an external firewire drive. And I'm working on a Powerbook with only 60GB of hard drive space total.

Ted Springer October 6th, 2003 06:55 PM

It can be kind of cool to play with. I immediately recognized your work as samples from Soundtrack, so it does kind of stick out.

Not too long ago a friend of mine and I were riding our bikes around when we decided to tool around on the ol' Hutch BMX. I decided to video tape it with no planning whatsoever with the XL1 and 3X wide angle lens (no tripod or anything). I used Soundtrack to do the music. Check it out:

Click here to download. Quicktime. 16.8 MB

Justin Morgan October 7th, 2003 02:26 AM

Okay, thanks - I'll stick with 2.1 - it seems adequate.

John Locke October 7th, 2003 04:35 AM

Pretty cool, guys. I can't wait to get my hands on it. I've already bought the FCP 4 upgrade, but it's sitting impatiently in the box waiting for OSX.3 to come out (I don't want to upgrade my system now, then have to again in a month or two).

Don, when you figure out how to load samples in, let us in on it. Ted, that last shot takes you by surprise at first...good job.

Matthew Kaplan October 7th, 2003 10:30 PM

Final Cut Express
 
I really want to use Final Cut Pro 4, mostly I want to use Soundtrack, but I have an ibook 500.

I used Final Cut Pro 3 on it before, but it was never mine. My friend let me try it out for a little bit and I had to give the software back to him.

anyway, FCP 3 is great.

However, I was looking on eBay and you can get FCE for a great price. I figured many people bought it for 99 dollars with the purchase of a new computer in order to sell it.

I was thinking, maybe I should get FCE for 150 bucks while I save up to get a desktop to run FCP 4.

I would love to get Soundtrack, but there must be alternatives out there.

Question is, besides BATCH CAPTURE, which I used when I edited a feature in FCP 3, what is FCE missing that I would actually miss.

Doesn't seem like much.

Thank you.

Matthew Kaplan October 7th, 2003 10:31 PM

No G4 for SOUNDTRACK, similar program for ibook G3?
 
Are there any other programs like SOUNDTRACK that let you create royality free music for your films?

I use an ibook 500 G3, and Soundtrack doesn't work on it.

I read that there are hacks, but I'm a little scared do to that.

Is there a program I could use on my G3, that would do the job?

Denis Murphy October 8th, 2003 09:45 AM

FCE Limitations
 
FCE is FCP for DV users. If you are working exclusively in DV (PAL or NTSC) there's practically no difference between FCE and FCP3. Keyframe editing is a little less flexible than in FCP (can't edit keyframes in the viewer). You'll find detailed comparisons on the Apple website.

Michael Bendixen October 8th, 2003 11:59 AM

FCP glitches during playback
 
My main problem is that Final Cut Pro glitches during playback.

I have a Que! M3 120GB 7200rpm harddrive and use an Imac with 768MB total of RAM

I thought it might be because I use an Imac with fairly low RAM, but then I edited via a Lacie harddrive and FCP worked fine.

Then I tried adjusting the "device tuner" for the Que!HD to safe mode, but it said that the HD was "unsupported," whatever that means. I called the tech support at least a dozen times and they can't find a solution either.

Any suggestions for this problem?

Thanks,

Michael B

Nicholi Brossia October 8th, 2003 01:02 PM

I did something similar to what you're thinking of. When I bought my G4, I went ahead and got the $99 FCE with the full intention of quickly upgrading to FCP. However, after doing a couple projects in FCE, I decided that was exactly what I needed. Most of FCP's extra features deal with higher end broadcasting and film work. I work with DV so I don't really need that stuff right now. Yes, I will admit, not being able to batch capture is a pain. But I don't need that feature so bad that I'm going to spend the extra $600 (B&H Photo sells it cheaper than Apple) to upgrade to Pro.
Getting back to your question... yes, I think its a great idea to get FCE for the time being while you're saving up for the desktop. After some fiddling around, you may even decide to stay with Express after getting the desktop.
When it comes to whether or not you'll miss certain features, that all depends on you and your projects. You even might be suprised at how many are included, only in a simplified form - like the color corrector. Personally, batch capture is the only missing feature that I could really use. I bought a very good book called Final Cut Express Editing Workshop by Tom Wolsky. You may feel more confident in your purchase if you find a copy at a local book seller (I found mine at Barnes & Noble) and just browse the lessons. That will give you a good idea of what the program is capable of and what you may find lacking.
Also, you can look at it financially. If you buy FCE for $150 on ebay, try it out, and can't stand how simple it is, then all you have to do is buy the FCP upgrade for $600 at B&H and you've saved $250 on the purchase of the full FCP. Which you turn around and apply towards that desktop.
Either way, I'd say its a pretty good idea.

Guest October 8th, 2003 02:44 PM

Suggestions for watching audio levels while editing... (Using G5, F.C.E. & GL-2)
 
Back in college, for our video productions we used the built-in VU meters
on the decks to monitor audio levels while we edited...

Now that everything's non-linear, what's my option?

I'm using a G5, F.C.E. & a Canon GL-2...

Thanks Guys!

:)
Dan

Denis Murphy October 8th, 2003 05:27 PM

FCE/FCP audio meters
 
I've never had a problem with the built-in meters. Have you?

Denis Murphy October 8th, 2003 05:35 PM

Partitioning
 
You can't un-partition without reformatting your entire drive. Think of it as an opportunity to install a clean system, having backed up all your documents/DV projects/email inboxes, etc. (of course).

Guest October 8th, 2003 08:24 PM

Are there built in meters with Final Cut Express?

Denis Murphy October 9th, 2003 02:39 AM

FCE built in meters
 
Yes, FCE has built in audio level meters. If you don't see them, turn them on in >Window>audio meters or by hitting option-4

Glenn Chan October 9th, 2003 04:00 PM

FCP's meters are more like a Peak Program Meter (the type using LEDs) than the analog VU meter (with the little stick). There are some subtle differences between the two which you should probably know.

http://www.roadogz.com/stories/downunder/vumeters.htm might shed some light on it. I'm sorry if that may not be the best explanation.

Guest October 9th, 2003 04:52 PM

thanks guys. obviously i havn't used Final Cut Express yet,
since I'm asking such questions.

i appreciate the help!

take care,
Dan

Matthew Kaplan October 10th, 2003 12:06 AM

i guess not?

anyone, anyone, jobs, jobs....

Don Berube October 10th, 2003 12:45 AM

http://www.smartsound.com/sonicfire/order.html

- don

Denis Murphy October 10th, 2003 05:07 PM

what kind of glitches?
 
There could be any number of reasons for this, depending on what kind of glitches for a start. Do you mean dropped frames? Or intermittent drop-out-like "specks" in the frame (the latter problem I fixed a while ago by taking out some third-party RAM).

Tell us more.

Paul Figgiani October 10th, 2003 10:09 PM

Analog audio mixer and Final Cut pro...
 
I am referring to the new FCP add inside the latest issues of Macworld and Mac Addict magazines. There is an intergrated analog Mackie mixer in the system. How and why would one use an analog mixer with Final Cut pro?

Ted Springer October 10th, 2003 10:11 PM

Hardware Test CD
 
Just for giggles, I decided to try and run the Apple Hardware Test CD that came with my Mac. It started booting and said something about a memory error, went into Open Firmware and I had to type "shut-down". This happened both times I tried. I know the RAM is good (at least I think so). The only thing I can think of is that the RAM sticks aren't in slots 1 and 2, they are in slots 2 and 3 (I removed the one from slot 1 during troubleshooting one time and it is insanely difficult to insert anything in that particular slot, so it went to slot 2). Would this confuse the Hardware Test Disc?

Any other ideas? I'm not too worried since the machine is running fine.

PS - My Mac is a dual G4 with 2 sticks of the same brand of 512MB DDR RAM. Machine is the "Mirrored Drive Door". OS is 10.2.8, which I hear screws up fsck -you

Jeff Donald October 10th, 2003 10:35 PM

The Apple Hardware Test CD is only for the specific computer it came with. Did the CD come with the machine you're testing it on? If so, it is probably a Ram issue. It probably looks at slot one and not finding any Ram, aborts the test.

Glenn Chan October 11th, 2003 11:10 AM

A mixer is nice because you don't have to mess around with wiring once you set it up. It's a convenience if you have multiple inputs (i.e. voice-over mic, DAT machine, MD recorder) or multiple outputs (good speakers for editing, a pair of crappy speakers to double check your sound, headphones, etc.). It will compensate for different kinds of inputs and outputs so you don't need amps or pads/attenuators and adapters. It's useful when doing voice-over work since you can hook headphones up and immediately hear any mistakes (i.e. your mouth is too dry).

In most cases you can get the same things done by moving wires around.


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