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Brian Luce June 8th, 2009 09:19 PM

new 13" Macbook Pro
 
I don't think the smaller ones have express card slots. Prices are good.
MacBook Pro - Apple Store (U.S.)

Chris Hurd June 8th, 2009 09:30 PM

They have an SDHC card slot, though... right?

Cole McDonald June 8th, 2009 09:38 PM

firewire 800, not 400 - so no DV import for me, deal breaker.

Luke Tingle June 8th, 2009 09:54 PM

NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics probably not adequate for HD editing too.

David Knaggs June 8th, 2009 10:03 PM

I like the looks of this model.

$200 cheaper with a speed bump of 0.26 GHz on the CPU.

Most importantly - a FW800 port! (The most recent 13-inch didn't have any FW at all.)

So it's possible to do location capture from a camera's FW400 port.

The local (Aussie) price of a Firestore DR-HD100 is $3,328.

The price of this new 13-inch MBP is $1,899.

In fact, this model is great news for those with JVC HD cams. FW800 for the older models and the SDHC slot for the new models.

As I said, there's a lot to like about this one!



Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole McDonald (Post 1155956)
firewire 800, not 400 - so no DV import for me, deal breaker.

Hi Cole.

A FW800 port can handle both FW800 and FW400. The FW400 just needs a special adapter. Which costs about $9.

So it's a good thing, not a bad thing.

MacNN | New FW400-to-FW800, CF Eye-Fi adapters ship

Brian Luce June 8th, 2009 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke Tingle (Post 1155960)
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics probably not adequate for HD editing too.

You can easily edit HD footage on the old vanilla macbooks with the integrated cards although Motion could be a problem though.

Chris, the express card slots are nice for esata drives and xdcam dumps. It looks like the express card slots are only on the 17" now?

7 hour battery life.

David Knaggs June 8th, 2009 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke Tingle (Post 1155960)
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics probably not adequate for HD editing too.

Hi Luke.

Where was this written?

With the NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, Apple claim a 5X graphics performance boost over the previous graphics card (Intel GMA X3100) in the old white Macbook.

Apple - MacBook Pro - Graphics - Even faster graphics processing.

I thought this NVIDIA card in the 13-inch is the main reason why they now call it a Macbook Pro instead of a MacBook. (I.e. the 5X graphics performance boost should now make it easy to handle the FCS requirements.)

Luke Tingle June 8th, 2009 10:24 PM

Well, I don't know if it can handle HD in FCP or not but Final Cut Suite doesn't officially support integrated graphics cards. The $2000 15"Macbook Pro is the cheapest one with a dedicated video card (9600M GT with 256MB)

Luke Tingle June 8th, 2009 10:32 PM

From Apple website:
Minimum Requirements
* An AGP or PCI Express Quartz Extreme graphics card (Final Cut Studio is not compatible with integrated Intel graphics processors)


Just noticed it says integrated Intel graphics cards specifically, so maybe the nvidia's work fine...?

David Knaggs June 8th, 2009 10:38 PM

Yes, I agree that Apple really need to update their FCS specs page to reflect the graphics cards in their newer models because it's quite ambiguous in it's current form!

Cole McDonald June 8th, 2009 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Knaggs (Post 1155964)
Hi Cole.

A FW800 port can handle both FW800 and FW400. The FW400 just needs a special adapter. Which costs about $9.

So it's a good thing, not a bad thing.

MacNN | New FW400-to-FW800, CF Eye-Fi adapters ship

I sit corrected!

Nigel Barker June 8th, 2009 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Knaggs (Post 1155970)
I thought this NVIDIA card in the 13-inch is the main reason why they now call it a Macbook Pro instead of a MacBook. (I.e. the 5X graphics performance boost should now make it easy to handle the FCS requirements.)

The white MacBook has had the exact same Nvidia 9400M graphics as the 13" MacBook Pro since they last re-vamped the model back in February. In fact the internals of both models are very similar under their respective plastic or aluminium cases & there will be little real life difference in performance.

Brian Luce June 9th, 2009 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke Tingle (Post 1155977)
From Apple website:
Minimum Requirements
* An AGP or PCI Express Quartz Extreme graphics card (Final Cut Studio is not compatible with integrated Intel graphics processors)


Just noticed it says integrated Intel graphics cards specifically, so maybe the nvidia's work fine...?

It says that but I've used an old Macbook (pre3100) to edit in FCP, there are however a few functions in Motion that arent supported.

Just wondering though, if it's the same card as the new plain MB, no expresscard, what exactly makes it a MBP? Firewire?

Nigel Barker June 9th, 2009 02:01 AM

Apple Marketing Speak makes it a MBP or if you prefer it's a sexy aluminium case that makes it one. The white MacBook has a Firewire 400 port.

Brian Luce June 9th, 2009 02:20 AM

I'm too lazy to check, but I'm nearly certain the new Macbooks aren't the white plastic but the same one piece aluminum as the MBP's. And they have no firewire.

edit: I checked the site, I'm all mixed up, coulda sworn the MB's went from plastic to aluminum. And I'm positive there was no firewire cuz people were grumbling. Now they've got firewire again. I can't keep up.


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