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Boyd Ostroff November 19th, 2004 10:08 PM

I'm not sure if I understand... however all editing in FCP is "non destructive" so unless you actually went in with the Finder and deleted your files, then the audio you originally captured is still there.

On the timeline, place the playhead so that it snaps to the beginning of the clip you want to fix. Now double-click anywhere on the clip and it opens in the viewer. Note the timecode. Now move the playhead to the end of the clip in the timeline, doubleclick again and note the timeline in the viewer. You can then go back to the original clip that was used in your sequence, set the in and out points to match, then drag or paste the original to the timeline.

Notice that when you open a clip by double clicking it from the timeline that the viewer window shows its in and out points right below the image. I'll bet there's an easier way, but I can't think of it right now ;-)

Boyd Ostroff November 19th, 2004 10:11 PM

I'm not sure if I understand... however all editing in FCP in "non destructive" so unless you actually went in with the Finder and deleted your files, then the audio you originally captured is still there.

On the timeline, place the playhead so that it snaps to the beginning of the clip you want to fix. Now double-click anywhere on the clip and it opens in the viewer. Note the timecode. Now move the playhead to the end of the clip in the timeline, doubleclick again and note the timeline in the viewer. You can then go back to the original clip that was used in your sequence, set the in and out points to match, then drag or paste the original to the timeline.

Notice that when you open a clip by double clicking it from the timeline that the viewer window shows its in and out points right below the image. I'll bet there's an easier way, but I can't think of it right now ;-)

Rob Moreno November 20th, 2004 08:57 AM

Thanks for the suggestion. I thought there may be a quicker way (like a "restore audio" function), but this seems like it will work with a bit of effort.

Guest November 21st, 2004 10:53 AM

after effects render problem
 
I am having trouble rendering my after effects compositions (mostly ramped slow mo's and some color corrections) to use in FCP. everytime i choose "best settings and full quality" from the render queue i end up with a lot of noise and jumps in the video clip. also, these are only like 4 second clips so its not like i am taxing my powerbook and making it work super hard.
any ideas?

Michael Westphal November 21st, 2004 07:06 PM

Rob,
Click on the video clip in the timeline. Press "f". The original clip with in/out points set will show in the viewer. From there you can restore the audio, a number of ways -- depends on the target audio and video tracks, and if something is already there, etc. But, You can now see the original audio in the viewer. Not quite as nice as a "Restore" audio command...

Rob Moreno November 21st, 2004 07:21 PM

Michael, thanks for your suggestion!

This does exactly what I need, with minimum effort.

Thanks!

Rob Lohman November 22nd, 2004 04:08 AM

It shouldn't be that much of a difference. Ofcourse if you can it is
always best to match the tutorial/book/video/etc. to your exact
version to make sure it follows closely the program you have.

Are you going to get this second-hand or buy this new? If new
then just ask the company how well it works with 6.5? It is at
least better to work with a 6.0 training for a 6.5 version since
the basics should be the same, but I don't know that for sure
(not used AE in a long time).

I hope someone who has experience with both versions can give
you a better insight into what is different!

Dmitry Yun November 22nd, 2004 07:54 AM

Thanks Rob. I'm going to get it new but I don't think there are any 6.5 training videos thus my question. I'll definitely ask if they are close enough for me to use one for another :)

Dmitry

Guest November 22nd, 2004 02:53 PM

nobody?

Rob Lohman November 23rd, 2004 06:13 AM

I don't think there are many Mac After Effects users, so it might
not be that anyone knows. Did you try asking the question on
the Adobe forums?

Jeff Donald November 23rd, 2004 06:37 AM

That's very odd Jerry. I used to use AE a lot and don't ever remember a lot of jumping. How slow are you trying to get? Maybe the clips need to be longer than 4 seconds to get the smoothness you want. what type of color effects? If you go into extremes it will cause banding and noise.

Gary Chavez November 23rd, 2004 09:46 AM

compressor question
 
How in God's name do I open the MPEG 2 window pane?
I'm about to shoot something.
1.2.1

Gary Chavez November 23rd, 2004 10:44 AM

nevermind, got it.
And I didnt shoot anything.

Mike Butler November 23rd, 2004 05:23 PM

If I have a project of any major nature ($$$) I try to designate one specific external Firewire drive for this job (after ascertaining that this drive has enough room) and capture everything to it, plus do all my rendering and save all versions of the sequence, and other media used in the job like audio and Photoshop files there.

Then I don't have to worry, I can plug it into literally any computer that has FCP installed, carry the job between locations easily, return a rented computer on-location and finish up at the home office etc. or just not worry if something goes wrong with the computer.

Cameron O'Rourke November 24th, 2004 11:11 PM

Audio Drift Post-Capture
 
Help. I'm working on an 8-minute industrial that captured into FCP just fine, but now am hearing a 16-frame audio drift when working on the timeline and when I go to export to either QuickTime or Compressor.

The video was captured 8-bit uncompressed 4:1:1 from a DigiBeta deck to an XRaid. Editing was done on a G5 connected to the XRaid and all was well.

The entire Capture Scratch folder, supplemental media and the project file were copied to a LaCie Big Disk Extreme 500Gb drive over Firewire 800, a total of 350Gb of material.

I brought the drive home and attached it to my Dual 1.42Gh G4. I have another LaCie 500Gb that I use for my Final Cut Pro render/cache files attached in a daisy chain over Firewire 800 to the previously mentioned firewire disk.

The project is nested. The main edit is in its own sequence. That sequence is nested into "master" sequences that include color bars, a slate, and a broadcast safe filter. The master sequences also include a monolithic mastered stereo audio track that was done outside.

The sequence containing the main edit, with all of the original audio plays back fine. However, on the master sequence, the mastered audio track drifts to a lag of about 15 frames at the end of the 8 minute spot.

Attempts to scale the audio just seem to cause unpredictable results when I export -- sometimes the audio leads, sometimes it lags.

I'm absolutely pulling my hair out. I don't think this is a disk throughput or CPU issue as the lead/lag is encoded that way in the QuickTime -- I believe this is true as when I start/stop or scrub through the QuickTimes the lead/lag is always the same.

I've read everything on "audio drift" and "audio sync" I could find -- can anyone shed light on what might be happening?

Thanks,
Cameron

Jeff Donald November 24th, 2004 11:32 PM

Nesting can cause problems with the audio. Have you any "old" un-nested versions you can try? I try to save several copies when I start to nest sequences. Copying files can also lead to sync issues. Did you use the Media Manager to move the files?

Cameron O'Rourke November 25th, 2004 12:30 AM

Well, the nested edit sequence is pretty messy so I'm not sure I want to layback the audio track onto that. However, while playing around with the sequences, I created a new sequence, nested the edit sequence in, and then layed in the audio track. And, surprise, the audio sync'd up perfectly (I checked it against the orginal audio.)

So, although serendipity is a great thing, and I'm back in business, I'd sure like to know what is going on.

Thanks,
Cameron

Jeff Donald November 25th, 2004 06:47 AM

I don't have a good answer, other than nesting occasionally cause audio sync issues. I'm sure apple is aware of this and it will be addressed in future versions.

Steven H. Denn November 25th, 2004 08:36 AM

Older Topic - gen error 34
 
I can't open my Audio/Video Settings.

I get this mssage (General Error 34)

I thought if I made a new project it would go away, still there.

I have read, trash the prefs, delete bad audio, delete a empty layer on a photoshop graphic.

My son had started a slide show using bmp's & a Aiff music track

Any clues?


Thanks

Rob Lohman November 25th, 2004 08:44 AM

Which program are you using?

Steven H. Denn November 25th, 2004 08:50 AM

General Error 43
 
FCP 4.5

Cameron O'Rourke November 25th, 2004 10:13 AM

Thanks for the lead about the nested sequences. That's what led me in the right direction.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Cameron

Rob Lohman November 25th, 2004 01:21 PM

I've moved your thread to our Mac editing forum. Hopefully there
are some people here who can help you out. Good luck!

Peter TK Lee November 25th, 2004 02:48 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Cameron O'Rourke : Thanks for the lead about the nested sequences. That's what led me in the right direction.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Cameron -->>>

Not sure if it would help, but have you tried mixing down the audio before nesting your sequence to the master?

Peter

Patrick Coker November 25th, 2004 03:19 PM

24p and FCP
 
I'm shooting on the xl2 in 24p mode and I'm wondering do I need to change the settings on my FCP system? Before this I was shooting with an xl1-s. running FCP 4.5. Thanks

Dave Perry November 25th, 2004 06:07 PM

Steven,

Have you tried trashing your preferences? Instructions located as a sticky at begining of this forum.

Eddie Dean November 26th, 2004 08:32 PM

TV Blip (turning tv off) special effect
 
I'm not sure what the name of it is, but does anyone have an effect/filter (or just know how to do it) to make it look like someone is turning the TV off on the video?

Basically when you turn a TV off you see the picture squashed into the center and a final little "blip" as it goes completely black. I'd think this is used a lot, so is there a prebuilt effect for this or anyone know how to do it? Thanks.

Grinner Hester November 26th, 2004 08:35 PM

I use 3 frames of static followd by a quick circle wipe.

Scott Shuster November 26th, 2004 09:12 PM

This is of course the way old TVs in the 1950s actually looked when they were turned off. All you need to do is get one of those and do a kinescope (a-la-2004)...

James Emory November 26th, 2004 09:43 PM

Another way is to use a horizontal squeeze or wipe filter/transition and then a vertical move with the same properties all in succession. Once the image is about a 1/4" horizontal, apply the vertical squeeze move to finish it off with a zoom out like a circle wipe. You may have to do the first and then composite it as a separate file and then apply the vertical. It will almost look like an offset crosswipe but really fast. I guess this could be done with the orientations reversed as well.

Jeremiah Hall November 27th, 2004 09:21 AM

Hi,

Mr. Nattress has a demo available at his website for the standards conversion plugin set. I have not used that particular set, but I do have two others of his and have been very impressed with them.

Hope this helps.

Jeremiah Hall

Kurth Bousman November 27th, 2004 12:16 PM

thanks Jeremiah - my problem is I haven't purchased a pal camera yet , just thinking about it and investigating workflows because I live in an ntsc world. I also have nattress' film effects 1.5 and yes , it is very good. thanks

Bryan Sun November 27th, 2004 10:54 PM

iDVD4 Problems
 
I wondered if anyone has seen similar problems, or has suggestions for what I can do to resolve a problem in iDVD 4. I've tried searching here but didn't come across anything exactly like this.

When I launch iDVD 4 it seems to run slowly, and as soon as I try to change to a new theme or click the slideshow option, I get the neverending whirling pinwheel and the entire program either slows down immensely or just doesn't respond at all (mostly it just doesn't respond at all). The hard drive seems to be working overtime, and it takes over all the other tasks on the computer-- and even takes a long time to force quit. I've tried several things such as turning off the "Motion" option, trashing the iDVD preferences file, repairing permissions and restarting, and deleting all iDVD files and reinstalling the iDVD program from scratch... with no luck.

One other thing is that I had iDVD3 previously installed and wonder if I have some file mix-up going on which may be confusing the new program. But I'm not sure how to make sure I've purged all the old version 3 files, or if that's even necessary (doesn't seem like it should be).

Has anyone seen anything similar, or have suggestions for what to try?

I'm running iDVD 4.0.1 on a G5-1.8 single processor on OS 10.3.6 with 1 GB of RAM.

Thanks for any help.

Tim Commeijne November 28th, 2004 11:41 AM

Hi,

I gues in Audio/video Settings - sequence preset - you can choose DV NTSC 48 kHz - 24. But I don't see that in the capture preset. And do you have any idea how to choose a 24p sequence that is also anamorphic?
Because I can only choose:

- DV NTSC 48 khz - 24 OR
- DV NTSC 48 kHz Anamorphic

There's like no combination! even not for PAL (I work with PAL)

greets

Tim Commeijne November 28th, 2004 12:49 PM

24p AND 16:9 in FCP
 
Hi everyone,

Does anyone know how to work with 24p AND 16:9 in FCP HD?
There is a sequence preset: DV NTSC 48kHz - 24,
and one DV NTSC 48kHz Anamorphic, but no combination of those two?

Greets

Graeme Nattress November 28th, 2004 12:58 PM

The way that the Nattress converter and Atlantis work are very different. I've seen both on the same footage that one of my converter users gave me and they were both great, but very different.

The Nattress converter tries to preserve the inherent interlaced nature of the video through the conversion, hence if the source is interlaced the output has the same smooth motion, whereas if the source is progressive, the output is again interlaced for smoothness, but it still looks progressive, like when 3:2 gets added to film to get to NTSC, it still looks progressive, even though the output is interlaced.

Atlantis, as a first step, always de-interlaces the video, so then it does a pulldown to convert the frame rates. This means that if your source footage is interlaced, then the output look always progressive. In that respect, although Atlantis produces nice results, it's not respecting the original nature of the footage, and hence limits it's application to more specialist uses. It's like everything you do goes through a film look.

However, some people may find that useful, so I'll look at implementing that method in a future version.

Best thing to do is try the demos!!

Graeme

Jeff Donald November 28th, 2004 01:03 PM

How much hard drive space is available? You may need to trash other files than the preferences. You may want to read over this article on the Apple Support Site on troubleshooting software issues.

Bryan Sun November 28th, 2004 03:36 PM

There's 100 GB of hard drive space remaining. I'll try some of the troubleshooting and problem isolation steps that are suggested in that Apple article, and hopefully get it to work.

Boyd Ostroff November 28th, 2004 03:51 PM

Tim: I moved your question to the Mac forum since I think you'll get more response and it really wasn't XL-2 specific. I don't use the XL-2 and am still on an earlier version of FCP, but I think anamorphic 16:9 is selected with a simple checkbox. If so then you could start with the 24p settings and just click that checkbox to acheive what you want.

Jeff Donald November 28th, 2004 07:54 PM

You might also wan to search Apple's support site as well. This may be a known issue, but I'm unfamiliar with it.


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