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Jim Stern July 11th, 2008 08:56 PM

What Video settings should I use for Vimeo or Youtube?
 
Whats the best qaulity I can get with a GL2 without HD but using the HD format on Vimeo. Also what should I save the file format as? If I do avi it puts me over my 500meg limit.

Matthew Ewing July 11th, 2008 08:59 PM

Im new to vegas myself and editing in general. But i do make youtube videos.
I save mine as WMV and im getting pretty high quality, I always save my videos in vegas as " best ".

Im no expert as i said, but i do happen to use youtube for videos.

Hugh Mobley July 11th, 2008 10:45 PM

use mpeg4, 500x375, 2-3 mbs for bit rate, should do it thats what I use for internet, you could try bit rate at 1 mb but you might not be happy

Jason Robinson July 12th, 2008 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Stern (Post 906176)
Whats the best qaulity I can get with a GL2 without HD but using the HD format on Vimeo. Also what should I save the file format as? If I do avi it puts me over my 500meg limit.

This video was shot on GL2s, edited on a 16x9 SD timeline with all media shot using 4x3 in camera and cropped to 16x9 in Vegas. Then encoded using WMV but with a 873x480 pixel frame size with PAR (Pixel Aspect Ratio) of 1.0 using the 3Mbps preset with audio at 128Kbps (don't know if Vimeo messed with the audio ... doesn't quite sound the same as the 20MB wmv file).

Not that I have it all figured out either. In order to get YouTube version I have to put the 16x9 timeline on a 4x3 project (nested veg) and then render a 320x240 with PAR at 1.0 again.

Jason Robinson July 12th, 2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Stern (Post 906176)
Whats the best qaulity I can get with a GL2 without HD but using the HD format on Vimeo. Also what should I save the file format as? If I do avi it puts me over my 500meg limit.

You would have to shoot using 4x3 in camera, crop to 16x9 in Vegas, then render out the avi and use some upresing software to create 720p footage. I have not ever tried that, but I was thinking the same thing myself.

Matthew Ewing July 12th, 2008 12:44 AM

The qaulity on that wedding video is so amazing. That is the qaulity that i dream of having some day. I assume these are filmed using high end pro camcorders?.

Jason Robinson July 12th, 2008 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Ewing (Post 906225)
The qaulity on that wedding video is so amazing. That is the qaulity that i dream of having some day. I assume these are filmed using high end pro camcorders?.

which video? Mine? That video was shot on Canon GL2 cameras (3 of them) and edited in Vegas with no additional plugins etc. :-) But I have shot 15 weddings in the last 5 years and I now do this full time, so I'm getting lots and lots of practice. It doesn't hurt that there is a lot of pressure to get things right the first time because there is only one take.

If you weren't talking about my video, than which one? I also like to view samples. Gets me pumped up for the next wedding and ready to try some new shots (and stop screwing up in the same places).

Jason Robinson July 12th, 2008 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Robinson (Post 906229)
which video? Mine? That video was shot on Canon GL2 cameras (3 of them) and edited in Vegas with no additional plugins etc. :-) But I have shot 15 weddings in the last 5 years and I now do this full time, so I'm getting lots and lots of practice. It doesn't hurt that there is a lot of pressure to get things right the first time because there is only one take.

If you weren't talking about my video, than which one? I also like to view samples. Gets me pumped up for the next wedding and ready to try some new shots (and stop screwing up in the same places).

I forgot to add, I used the Canon .75x WD-58 lens and a Raynox .3 fish eye. THe raynox is a real tricky bugger. Believe it or not, even that lens with nearly infinite DOF can get out of focus shots if the cam is on MF. Check your settings first!

Matthew Ewing July 12th, 2008 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Robinson (Post 906229)
which video? Mine? That video was shot on Canon GL2 cameras (3 of them) and edited in Vegas with no additional plugins etc. :-) But I have shot 15 weddings in the last 5 years and I now do this full time, so I'm getting lots and lots of practice. It doesn't hurt that there is a lot of pressure to get things right the first time because there is only one take.

If you weren't talking about my video, than which one? I also like to view samples. Gets me pumped up for the next wedding and ready to try some new shots (and stop screwing up in the same places).

Yes your video. The picture is amazing. You have alot of talent.

Josh Bass July 12th, 2008 01:02 AM

I think I got these specs from someone on this board, in regards to how to encode for youtube. Youtube might also have some explicit instructions on the site somewhere:

MPEG4 (Divx, Xvid) format
320x240 resolution
MP3 audio
30 frames per second

Jason Robinson July 12th, 2008 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Ewing (Post 906234)
Yes your video. The picture is amazing. You have alot of talent.

Thanks! In all fairness that is pretty much the best thing I've done to date (and I've yet to edit the 4 weddings I've shot since then). The previous productions..... not so much. I still struggled with a "color theme." By that I mean everything is color corrected true to life, but the picture doesn't have a visual style (as a certain director is famous for saying). Look up Jason M. or Patrick Moreau. They have practically perfected the art of applying a visual style to their productions.

But that is what learning is all about. And like I said, shot with GL2s, on a pretty low end tripod ($180 or so.... at least my cam was, the other two were on higher end tripods). It all comes down to practice. I'm still pretty new to this, with most of my practice coming in the last 2 years.

Harm Millaard July 12th, 2008 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Stern (Post 906176)
Whats the best qaulity I can get with a GL2 without HD but using the HD format on Vimeo. Also what should I save the file format as? If I do avi it puts me over my 500meg limit.

For the HD format on Vimeo, I have pretty decent results with export setting to WMV 1280x720 with 1.0 PAR with 2-pass unconstrained VBR @ 5200 Kbps. After conversion by Vimeo it looks like this: http://www.vimeo.com/1122531

This was HD footage, so it may not apply to your SD footage. I find the YouTube quality far less than Vimeo.

Hugh Mobley July 12th, 2008 08:05 AM

thought it was fantastico! sent link over to my friend who shoots with a Z1,

Harm Millaard July 12th, 2008 09:17 AM

If you do like it, please sign up on Vimeo and after registration, give my clip a LIKE by pressing once on the heart icon in the top right corner of the screen.

Hugh Mobley July 12th, 2008 01:22 PM

already a member, yes I will go do that

Harm Millaard July 13th, 2008 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Mobley (Post 906430)
already a member, yes I will go do that

Just play the clip and then single click on the heart icon in the upper right corner.
Thanks in advance.

Serge Victorovich July 16th, 2008 02:27 PM

I've recomendation from my friend how upload to youtube w/o recompression:
your video+audio must be under 350 Kbps in flv container with resolution 320x240
video is H263 sorenson codec and audio - mp3 and duration of video no more than 10 min.

Harm Millaard July 16th, 2008 02:56 PM

How do you think that compares to encoding 1280x720 @ 5200 kbps?
And why use YouTube when it is so much worse in quality than Vimeo?

Serge Victorovich July 16th, 2008 04:12 PM

I can upload to rapidshare or p2p 1920x1080 at 50 or 100 Mbps videos.
But if you need resonable size/quality and big auditorium for your video
you must do compromises. For youtube possible also 1280x720p24 H264 1Mbps (~3min)
but with hack and size limited to ~30MB equal to 10 min of 350 Kbps.

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3TMouePCf8
1024x576 600 Kbps H264

Julian Frost July 16th, 2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Serge Victorovich (Post 908343)
Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3TMouePCf8
1024x576 600 Kbps H264

That was really nice footage. How did you do the panning and tracking shots?

David Allen Smith July 19th, 2008 09:57 AM

Web videos from Final Cut Pro

I found this online a while back, sorry I don't have a link.

To compress and encode video for the web from Final Cut. Go to File, Export, and choose Using Quicktime Conversion. Name the file, make sure the format is Quicktime movie, and click on options. Click on the settings, and under compression type select H264. This is the latest quicktime compression.

Final Cut Pro Web Export Size
Now click Size. Click the dimensions tab and click on custom. Web videos are seldom encoded at the videos original size, because the larger the size the longer it takes to watch and download.

The resolution of fullsize standard definition video is 720 X 480. Export at 480 X 360, this retains the aspect ratio of the movie video. Set letter box I'll click OK.
Final Cut Pro Web Export Audio
Now encode the audio. Make sure Sound is checked and click on settings. Under format select IMA 4:1.

Under rate select 22.05. These settings will help shrink the file size. And hit OK. And OK one more time.
Completing Web Export
And finally hit save. You have to wait a few minutes for the movie to export. And there's a video ready for the web.

Craig Lieberman July 21st, 2008 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Harm Millaard (Post 906280)
For the HD format on Vimeo, I have pretty decent results with export setting to WMV 1280x720 with 1.0 PAR with 2-pass unconstrained VBR @ 5200 Kbps. After conversion by Vimeo it looks like this: http://www.vimeo.com/1122531

This was HD footage, so it may not apply to your SD footage. I find the YouTube quality far less than Vimeo.


How many MEGS was the ouptut file?

Craig Lieberman July 21st, 2008 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serge Victorovich (Post 908343)
I can upload to rapidshare or p2p 1920x1080 at 50 or 100 Mbps videos.
But if you need resonable size/quality and big auditorium for your video
you must do compromises. For youtube possible also 1280x720p24 H264 1Mbps (~3min)
but with hack and size limited to ~30MB equal to 10 min of 350 Kbps.

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3TMouePCf8
1024x576 600 Kbps H264

Can you explain this in a little more detail?

I want to upload 720 x405 (16:9) format to YouTube in similar quality.

My videos are ONLY 8:30 secs each.

What did you do with Rapidshare?

I usually output at 2.25MBps CBR (constant bit rate) and use an H.264 codec.

PLEASE TEACH ME!

Roger Akers July 22nd, 2008 07:18 AM

After trying several different settings including various h.264, divx, etc. These settings work the best in Vegas for Letterboxed HDV on YouTube. You get the High quality setting and it renders quick.

Project Video Settings:
WIDTH: 1,440 Field Order: Upper Field First
HEIGHT: 1,080 Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.333
Output Rotation: 0

Frame Rate: 30
Pixel Format: 8 bit
Full Resolution Rendering Quality: BEST
Motion Blur Type: Gaussian
Deinterlace Method: Interpolate

FILE > Render As > WMV.
Be sure to UNCHECK 'Stretch Video to fill output frame (do not letterbox)'

Hit Custom Tab

Render Settings
Video Rendering Quality: BEST

Audio:
CBR
WMA 9.1
128kbps audio

Video:
Mode: CBR
Format: Windows Media 9
Image Size: 640x480
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000 (square)
Frame Rate: 30
Video Sharpness slider turned up to max.
Bit Rate: Internet / Lan - '3M'

Save your preset and render away. After uploading wait a bit for 'Watch in High Quality' to appear below your video. That's it!


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