Sony refers to iLink, yet it's still FireWire. Sony is in its own world. They may never actually put it in any of their marketing material, but yes Sony is HDV2 and yes they do refer to HDV2 in their sales training material.

Every single PowerPoint about HDV I've ever seen from JVC, Canon and Sony, all refer to HDV1 and HDV2. All of 'em. So yes I can say it with a straight face and do so all the time, because that's what it is. And that's exactly how we're going to continue to refer to it here, by the way, and you really need to understand that.

By the way, 24F does equal 24P. 24F looks like 24P, edits like 24P, and is now part of the HDV specification like 24P. It pretty much is 24P. All of this "sky is falling" nonsense about playback compatibility and capture issues will disappear and become moot in due time as hardware and software support for it becomes available.

I agree wholeheartedly. This thing is cooked to a crisp. I'm not wasting any more time on closed minds. If I wrote off a particular format, I sure as hell wouldn't waste my time ranting and railing about it; instead I'd find more productive things to discuss. Geez... if you don't like something, why dwell on it, unless you're convinced that because you don't like it, nobody else should either. And that's a mentality I can't abide.

I think we need a new rule: you can't whizz on something here unless you've actually used it.

This thread is completely broken... therefore it's closed. Whew.