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Javier Perez October 24th, 2006 09:11 PM

Are these TRUE HD?
 
Are all these camaras listed in this section "TRUE" high defenition? Because I heard in a couple places that some camras like the canon line is not "TRUE" HD... Help...I want to switch to HD but am not sure what camaras I should be looking at...Any suggestions...Thanks

Mike Teutsch October 24th, 2006 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Javier Perez
Are all these camaras listed in this section "TRUE" high defenition? Because I heard in a couple places that some camras like the canon line is not "TRUE" HD... Help...I want to switch to HD but am not sure what camaras I should be looking at...Any suggestions...Thanks

All of the cameras are indeed true HD. HD is a specification. Any camera capable of shoot at I think it is greater than 525 ? lines of resolution is HD. They may not be or look like Cinealta HD, but they are indeed HD.

Mike

Thomas Smet October 24th, 2006 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Javier Perez
Are all these camaras listed in this section "TRUE" high defenition? Because I heard in a couple places that some camras like the canon line is not "TRUE" HD... Help...I want to switch to HD but am not sure what camaras I should be looking at...Any suggestions...Thanks

Dont believe that crap. That is like saying DV isn't real SD because it is compressed or that a DVD isn't real SD video. HDV cameras are real HD. They sure as heck are not SD that is for sure. It may not be as rich and detailed as a $100,000.00 HD camera but then again neither was DV when compared to a $35,000.00 Digibeta camera even though both were SD.

The Canon XL-H1 has been used side by side with the $100,000.00 cameras with very very good results so you shouldn't be too worried about it.

Kevin Shaw October 24th, 2006 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Javier Perez
Are all these camaras listed in this section "TRUE" high defenition? Because I heard in a couple places that some camras like the canon line is not "TRUE" HD... Help...I want to switch to HD but am not sure what camaras I should be looking at...Any suggestions...Thanks

This debate has been raging since HDV was introduced, largely because people with expensive HD cameras don't want to accept that a sub-$5K camera can produce useful high-definition video. Of course there's a difference between an inexpensive HDV camera and an expensive HD broadcast camera, but that doesn't mean one is "true" HD and one isn't. For some applications a certain level of camera and image quality may be required, and you should understand this when choosing an HD camera, but other than that "true" HD is a matter of interpretation.

Graham Hickling October 25th, 2006 12:44 AM

While all of the above is of course true, but one mustn't forget Sony executive Phil Harrison, who got a little over-excited at the prospect of 1080p60 during Sony's Tokyo Game Show PlayStation 3 preview:

Quote: "The PlayStation 3 is the only format that can do full HD, true HD."

Javier Perez October 25th, 2006 05:17 AM

Ok ..so which camara would you guys suggest I should be looking at?

thanks

Mike Teutsch October 25th, 2006 06:24 AM

All of them. Go to the store and put them all in you hands and see what feels good to you. The four main manufacturers Sony, Pany, JVC and Canon all have great cameras. Establish your budget and determine your requirements then make a decision based on that.

Mike

Kevin Shaw October 25th, 2006 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Javier Perez
Ok ..so which camara would you guys suggest I should be looking at?

What are you planning to do? If you're going to be doing broadcast TV work you might want to look at the Panasonic HVX200 or Sony XDCAM HD; if you're shooting weddings and such try any of the 3-chip HDV cameras. If you're planning to shoot a movie try the Silicon Imaging SI-1920 or get in line to buy "Red" when it ships.

Mike Teutsch October 25th, 2006 07:05 AM

Javier,

Just so we can make this post somewhat useful to all, what is your total budget? Camera, tripod & head, lights, stands, audio equipment, cases, computers and software------and all?

What can you spend?

Mike

Dave Perry October 25th, 2006 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Shaw
What are you planning to do? If you're going to be doing broadcast TV work you might want to look at the Panasonic HVX200 or Sony XDCAM HD.

Or the Canon XL-H1 and XH-G1 since they were designed for braodcast.

Javier Perez October 25th, 2006 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Teutsch
Javier,

Just so we can make this post somewhat useful to all, what is your total budget? Camera, tripod & head, lights, stands, audio equipment, cases, computers and software------and all?

What can you spend?

Mike

Well, actually what I am doing is upgrading. I currently have 2 GL2's which I wanted to replace with new HD camaras. I work with FCP and have a MAC computer. Which I will also be upgrading for more ram...So I really only have to spend money on the camaras and upgrading the apple. For the camras I basicly want to get a good product for good money (doesn't everyone.). But I like to spare no expense because I have noticed if I go cheap I pay in the long run..Now I can't spend no 10,000 dollars on one camara..I would be looking around spending around 2,000 maybe a bit more per camara...

Kevin Shaw October 26th, 2006 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Perry
Or the Canon XL-H1 and XH-G1 since they were designed for braodcast.

If you're referring to the fact that the XL-H1 and XH-G1 have HD-SDI outputs for use in a broadcast studio setting that's true, but for field use most broadcast folks seem to prefer other recording formats besides HDV.

Kevin Shaw October 26th, 2006 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Javier Perez
Now I can't spend no 10,000 dollars on one camara..I would be looking around spending around 2,000 maybe a bit more per camara...

The best HD camera under $2000 is probably the Sony A1U, but for professional purposes you'd be better off spending a little more for the FX1 or FX7.

Laurence Kingston October 26th, 2006 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Shaw
The best HD camera under $2000 is probably the Sony A1U, but for professional purposes you'd be better off spending a little more for the FX1 or FX7.

I have the Sony HVR-A1 and in good light it looks almost the same as the FX1 or Z1. The FX1 looks quite a bit better in low light, but you can work around that.

Javier Perez October 26th, 2006 04:38 PM

What about the canon XH A1?


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