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Jim Nogueira March 6th, 2017 02:11 PM

Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
I stumbled upon this page while surfing, and thought that it might be helpful for some LS300 users.

I know nothing about, or have any affiliation with, the site, Nor can I attest to the validity of the reviews. They seem legitimate, and I am happy to say that I own three of the 33 lenses.

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/t...ras-2017-30039

Jim

Jay P. Kaley March 6th, 2017 03:14 PM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
Cool list, something interesting to me is almost every lens on there covers an M43 sensor but not a super35 sensor. The super35 sensor seems to be in an odd spot between the the vast majority of options at full frame and M43.

It think it would be cool if there was a list of M43 mount lenses that cover the super35 sensor. I don't know how much it matters, just seems a shame to have a S35 sensor and not use a third of it with M43 coverage.

Noa Put March 6th, 2017 03:27 PM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
It matters if you have a jvc gy ls300 as that one has a s35 sensor but m4/3 mount, a few of my m4/3 lenses almost cover the s35 sensor, often there is just very minor vignetting that can be removed completely if you shoot 21:9.
edit: oops, didn't see this was posted in the jvc section :)

Jay P. Kaley March 6th, 2017 04:51 PM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
Yep I do have the LS300, what I mean is how much does it matter to image quality and/or getting the full potential out of a super35 sensor if you always VSM to 80% for M43? I"m still new to the large sensor gear, just seems counter-intuitive to not use 20% of the light-gathering real estate available.

That's why I thought it would be cool to see any sort of list of M43 mount lenses that actually do cover a super35 sensor, but it doesn't seem like an important thing or written about much. Maybe it's just because the LS300 is in a new niche with the M43 mount and larger sensor but it seems to be mostly speedbooster or M43 crop instead of just covering the super35 sensor straight up.

Duncan Craig March 7th, 2017 07:38 AM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
Sure, it would be nice to know which MFT lenses cover an APS but how are they going to do that test? And why? The LS300 is the only camera ever made which has this mount/sensor combination and as such it's appeal is very small. Plus the majority of lenses on the lens (I haven't personally read it) are probably of little use for video work. There's probably only 5 or 6 lenses that are worth using on an LS300. Focus on those and ask in here if they cover the whole sensor. Just my thoughts.

Steve Rosen March 7th, 2017 09:19 AM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
I have a couple of the lenses on that list, the Olympus 12-40 and the Lumix 35-100.

Somewhere here I've posted pics with the 12-40, VSM set at 92%... That's utilizing most of the sensor. There is some very minor vignetting at the corners, but virtually invisible unless shooting against a white wall. I use this lens on the LS 90% of the time. With the Prime Zoom, shooting 1080, or 2K, VSM @ 92%, it gives me the equivalent of a 10 to 90 zoom, and keeps the camera extremely light... That's pretty good - And yes, the image holds up well, and is indistinguishable from using the full sensor except in extreme under-exposure, which I don't recommend with this camera anyway.

The 35-100 I believe works well at 89% (it's been a while since I did theses tests) and is an excellent compliment to the 12-40 because it keeps the rig light, and can still be handheld, which is my primary use of the LS300.

Jay P. Kaley March 7th, 2017 11:28 AM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
I almost bought that Oly 12-40 last week, it's on the short list when I get a zoom Steve.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncan Craig (Post 1928604)
Sure, it would be nice to know which MFT lenses cover an APS but how are they going to do that test? And why? The LS300 is the only camera ever made which has this mount/sensor combination and as such it's appeal is very small. Plus the majority of lenses on the lens (I haven't personally read it) are probably of little use for video work. There's probably only 5 or 6 lenses that are worth using on an LS300. Focus on those and ask in here if they cover the whole sensor. Just my thoughts.

I don't know how they test, was thinking more along the lines of the manufacturer knows how big of a circle a lens throws, compile those numbers. For example the Rokinon comes in an M43 mount that covers the s35 sensor and it's on the spec sheet. It's not a must, like you said it would be nice to know.

Yep I mentioned how the LS300 is uniquely positioned too, and from my google research the Rokinon and the Veydra are on a short list of lenses with an M43 mount that can cover the s35 sensor. A list would be cool to check out is all, but I do understand it's only relevant to a small group inside a small group.

Duncan Craig March 7th, 2017 11:48 AM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
Something else to consider. The Rokinons are Full Frame, so you can use a Speedbooster which negates the crop factor and increases the light gathering (possibly also the resolution) of the lenses making the t1.5 lenses approx t1.2. I've just bought the Metabones 0.71 Ultra and the vignetting is very slight and very soft on only a couple of my 5x t1.5 Samyang cine lenses. I bought my Samyangs in Canon mount so I can put them on pretty much any other camera down the line. If you buy them in MFT, I think you'll be stuck with MFT and you can't use a speedbooster.

Jay P. Kaley March 7th, 2017 01:12 PM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
Yes the speedbooster seems cool, I've been going back and forth on whether to get one or not. At the moment I'm trying the Veydra mini primes in MFT mount that covers the s35 sensor. I liked the idea of covering the sensor without an adapter, I like the uniformity and the size of them, but I don't have anything to compare them to personally and I understand the issue of using them down the road so it's been tough for me to make a final call on which way to go.

Jim Nogueira March 7th, 2017 01:17 PM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
Like Steve, I own the Olympus 12-40 and the Lumix 35-100, as well as the Lumix 12-35. I use the lenses interchangeably on my LS300 and Panasonic GH4. All work reasonably well with the LS300, although none are perfect. I am considering the getting the new GH5, and if I do, it will probably be with the new 12-60 that has been released for that camera. It's a bit pricey, but will be used on my LS300 as well. The reviews that I have read so far for that lens have been very positive. I do wish that it was better than 2.8-4.0, but the extra on the telephoto end (compared to the Olympus 12-40 and Lumix 12-35) are worth the trade-off for me. It's #25 on the list

Steve Rosen March 8th, 2017 08:04 PM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
My problem/issue, whatever, has always been that with the LS300 none of these zooms "act" parfocal, even though they do on the BM Pocket and Micro cameras... I have never heard a convincing reason for this, other than sensor thickness... That is the primary reason I don't use the camera much any more... It's sad really because I like everything else about it...

Jim Nogueira March 9th, 2017 07:44 AM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
Blackmagic Design has released the URSA Mini Pro 4.6K Camera. Granted, it's twice the price of the LS300, but it looks very sweet,and solves many of the issues that the original URSA Mini had. My feeling is that they are going to sell a ton of these cameras, and Sony, Panasonic, Canon and JVC are all going to see sales drop both up and down their product lines.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ..._pro_4_6k.html

Steve Rosen March 9th, 2017 09:18 AM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
Jim: As an owner of three BM cameras, which I really like and use the hell out of, I can say I'm not crazy about the Ursa Pro... It does have NDs (finally) and offers raw and ProRes (which is great) but it's EF or PL mount only with, as yet, no option for the smaller, lighter MFT lenses. And the current Ursas have exhibited sensor issues which may or may not have been resolved in this new model, it'll take a while to be sure. Also, BM has a terrible reputation for delivery and QC... Which isn't unusual for a small company, but makes it tough for the "big boys" to consider as a reliable camera...

And for me, in my kind of work, it's till pretty heavy (5 pounds w/o lens, EVF or battery) and shaped like a brick.

The LS300 is much lighter, with a more elegant design, and should have been a huge success... The distrust of the JVC name, and the fact that it's only 8 bit, have kept it in the shadows.

Jay P. Kaley March 9th, 2017 12:31 PM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
Steve if you're not using the JVC as much, what camera are you using the most currently?

Jim Nogueira March 9th, 2017 06:07 PM

Re: Top 33 Best Lenses For Micro Four Thirds Cameras 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Rosen (Post 1928724)
Jim: As an owner of three BM cameras, which I really like and use the hell out of, I can say I'm not crazy about the Ursa Pro... It does have NDs (finally) and offers raw and ProRes (which is great) but it's EF or PL mount only with, as yet, no option for the smaller, lighter MFT lenses. And the current Ursas have exhibited sensor issues which may or may not have been resolved in this new model, it'll take a while to be sure. Also, BM has a terrible reputation for delivery and QC... Which isn't unusual for a small company, but makes it tough for the "big boys" to consider as a reliable camera...

And for me, in my kind of work, it's till pretty heavy (5 pounds w/o lens, EVF or battery) and shaped like a brick.

The LS300 is much lighter, with a more elegant design, and should have been a huge success... The distrust of the JVC name, and the fact that it's only 8 bit, have kept it in the shadows.

Steve, yeah, it would be great for us if it used MFT lenses. I like that the new BM camera can use bigger, more durable CF cards for recording 4K and SD cards for HD. It also has actual buttons now instead of digging through the menu to change common settings. I think the broadcasters are going to be the main purchasers. Agreed that the LS300 is perfect size and weight, has a lot going for it, but could be so much more. I thought by now there would have been an LS300 updated camera. The GH5 is going to take sales away from it for sure.


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