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Laszlo Horvath August 3rd, 2007 09:30 PM

Rebate status
 
Where can I check my HD-110's AB battery system's rebate status? I remember I checked the status last year on my first HD100 somewhere on JVC's website.
Somebody can show me the link?

Thanks: Laszlo

Julian Maytum August 4th, 2007 05:08 AM

Hi Laszlo,

I looked at that rebate that is going on currently and it doesn't seem to apply to us Canadians. I printed the form out and it seems like you have to purchase from a valid US dealer and have a valid US address to receive the free package.

Can you let me know if I am wrong or how you got around it? This is one of the things holding me back from purchasing currently as I am trying to figure out a way around it.

Julian

Julian Maytum August 5th, 2007 09:52 AM

Anyone else in Canada know if we are eligible because if so, I want to order this thing right away :)

Julian

Joseph A. Benoit August 5th, 2007 01:01 PM

Hello
If you have a friend you can trust in the states why not have them order it for you

just a idea
Joe

Julian Maytum August 5th, 2007 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph A. Benoit (Post 723855)
Hello
If you have a friend you can trust in the states why not have them order it for you

just a idea
Joe

That's what I am pondering doing right now actually. Gotta call B&H tomorrow as they have a "demo used" on for a decent price I may snap up if I can get the rebate for the battery etc.

Julian

Joseph A. Benoit August 6th, 2007 07:35 AM

Hi Julian
You are right, you do need the A/b batt sys'

When i bought my 110 from B&H i got the rebate on the IDX batt sys

it took about 2wks to recieve it but it worked out great. the stock battery that comes with camera last about 35 mins. i ordered an extra battery
now i can shoot up to 5 hrs. the A/B battery sys is also a great sys

Good Luck

Joe

Douglas Joseph August 7th, 2007 05:46 PM

Hold up, there's a rebate?! I reccently (2-3 months ago) purchased 2 IDX batteries and mounting kit from Tapeworks Texas... Sadly, after I bought my 110, I found out JVC was had deal going on where you could buy the 110 and get a free battery. So... Is it possible for me to get rembursed?

Joseph A. Benoit August 7th, 2007 09:41 PM

Hi Doug

that rebate for the IDX sys ( Charger kit and 1 endura 7s Battery) Value $1100.00. i bought my 110 in march of this year from B&H I think after the IDX promo they are now doing a rebate on the A/B sys.
When did you Buy your camera and from who

Joe

Douglas Joseph August 9th, 2007 04:11 PM

I bought my camcorder in december, had a dead pixel, then they gave me another like... a month later. I bought it from express cameras (not certified, said they were, turned out they're not) What is the A/B system? I'm not sure if I have that. I have 2 idx endura batteries, duel charger, and kit. I'm hoping I can get a rebate, because I just got-- unlucky.

Joseph A. Benoit August 9th, 2007 07:27 PM

Hello
the A/B sys is a Anton/Bauer trimpac battery system.
Joe

Julian Maytum August 10th, 2007 08:32 AM

Jvc
 
I am a bit ticked off at the moment as for some reason, we in Canada seem to be treated as second class citizens by this company.

Nothing on the JVC Canada web site about any rebates available to us. I sent an email and left voice mail but nothing in reply as of yet. I also called the lady (Mary something or other) who is in charge of the rebates in the U.S. and she hasn't returned my calls either (I left her a message last Friday and again on Wednesday).

Its bad enough that Canadian dealers want (on average) $3000 (yes three thousand!) dollars more for the same camera than U.S. dealers (hello, the dollar is worth close to 96 cents U.S.); that and it doesn't *appear* that we are entitled to the same deals as our American cousins, but to be completely ignored is kind of leaving me wondering about JVC.

I owned a DV-500 for years and luckily never had a problem with the camera or needed to contact JVC at all.

Excuse my mini rant but it is quite frustrating :P

Julian

Julian Maytum August 10th, 2007 11:43 AM

Finally reached a guy at JVC Canada Pro section who told me that he doesn't know why the prices are that much higher in Canada and gave me a number for "an awesome JVC dealer, who will get you a great price". Called that dealer and they tried to sell me a Panasonic HVX 200 instead saying it was a way better camera and I shouldn't bother with the JVC. Way to recommend the wrong person hah! I told him I was set on the 110 and he is supposed to be emailing me with a price later today.

He also told me that the deal (AB Battery kit) is in Canada too but you have to buy the camera from a Canadian dealer and there is no wait time as here they give you the kit when you buy your camera. This would be a good thing if they can get a decent price. If I buy the camera from the states, neither JVC US or JVC Canada will give me the free kit. Pathetic really.

I told him I was looking at B&H if I couldn't find a Canadian dealer that didn't totally gouge and he began to say what an awful place that was. I told him I had bought thousands of dollars worth of stuff from them over the years and never had a problem but he still said they were a crap place to buy from.

I should just fly to NY and buy the darn thing from B&H and still come out ahead of the game. Crazy really.

Any other Canucks have any comments or suggestions?

Julian

Tim Dashwood August 10th, 2007 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian Maytum (Post 726816)
Any other Canucks have any comments or suggestions?

With the rapidly climbing Canadian dollar (compared to the U.S. dollar) you would expect prices between the U.S. and Canada to start to equalize, and I'm sure they will eventually. However, you have to remember that JVC is a Japanese company and the Canadian cameras are not imported from the U.S. They come from Japan just the way the U.S. cameras do so you really need to start looking at CAN$ vs Yen and US$ vs Yen to see the whole picture of how things are priced.

The other thing is that the markets are entirely different. The U.S. has 10 times the population, with major markets spread throughout the country, which is healthy for competition. We only have 3-4 major markets spread across the 2nd largest country in the world. The level of demand is completely different which probably affects the marketing programs (rebates/bundles) and the amount of dealers (only about 12 across the country.)

So why wouldn't every Canadian just buy gray market camera from the U.S.?
I've heard of lots of people who live close to the border who do, but there is a certain amount of risk involved if you ever have a service issue.
My dealer just told me the other day he heard about a guy who bought a U.S. camera, got it home, fried the firewire port, but couldn't get it serviced for free in Canada. It would have been free if he had the Canadian warranty.
Also, there is a strong possibility you will get hit with duties, taxes and UPS brokerage fees if you mail it directly to your Canadian address, not to mention extra shipping costs. Even if you have it sent to a U.S. address you legally need to declare it when you cross the border and pay the applicable duties & taxes.
As I'm sure any accountant would tell you, if you are a business owner and have a GST number (or HST) it is beneficial to always buy Canadian because you get the tax back through input tax credits.
I'm not necessarily saying that it would all even out in the end... you may still save a hundred dollars or more in the end. You just have to ask yourself what kind of support you are going to get from your local JVC service people once they realize you have a U.S. model. Is it going to cost you more in the end to get the type of support that would be free with a Canadian warranty, and will it be worth the hassle?


I'm hoping that other types of products imported from the U.S. will start to catch up on the exchange rate soon. For example, the fixed prices found on magazines and books still seem to represent a time when the Canadian dollar was at $0.65! Considering many financial analysts are predicting the Canadian dollar will be at par with or exceed the U.S. dollar within the year let's hope we start seeing retailers catch up soon.

BTW, JVC Canada has had plenty of rebate and bundle incentives in the past that equal or exceed the value of the U.S. counterparts. You just have to ask your local dealer because they are not marketed on the website.

Sean Wilson August 11th, 2007 09:10 AM

That was a great post Tim. I'm still pretty new to buying this level of equipment (I purchased my GY-HD110 in December 2006), and I found your comments really insightful.

I actually bought my camera from B&H in a package including an Anton Bauer Battery kit and carrying case, plus a free IDX battery kit as a JVC promotion. I'm actually trading the IDX kit for another AB kit with a forum member. In the end, after all duties, everything I got cost me slightly less than buying just the camera at Vistek in Toronto.

If I had been able to find a similar free battery kit deal here, I probably would have bought Canadian. It's just that I'm not really making money off of this equipment yet (entering film school in a month), so every dollar counts.

I must admit, I'm incredibly careful with the camera because I've been told by JVC Canada that they won't service it with an American warranty.

Joseph A. Benoit August 11th, 2007 12:18 PM

HI
i don't understand JVC is JVC why not cover warr. work
whether its Canada or US is there something diff. with the Cameras
who covers for the warr. work, is'nt it JVC

just a thought
Joe

Scott Jaco August 11th, 2007 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian Maytum (Post 726816)
Called that dealer and they tried to sell me a Panasonic HVX 200 instead saying it was a way better camera and I shouldn't bother with the JVC.

Julian

What was the reason for recommending the HVX over the HD110? Seems a bit strange.

Tim Dashwood August 11th, 2007 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph A. Benoit (Post 727340)
HI
i don't understand JVC is JVC why not cover warr. work
whether its Canada or US is there something diff. with the Cameras
who covers for the warr. work, is'nt it JVC

just a thought
Joe

But JVC isn't just JVC. It is JVC Canada, JVC U.S.A, JVC Asia, JVC Europe, JVC Japan, JVC Brazil, JVC Argentina, JVC Panama, JVC Chile, etc.

That's just the way it works, around the world, with every global corporation who manufactures and sells products regionally. Whether it be Nikon, Canon, JVC, Panasonic, Sony, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, etc., they are all set up the same way with individual corporations in each region that must import and operate according to the particular laws of the land. Read any warranty card you have ever received with any product and the regional limitations are clearly stated.

On a simple accounting level it makes sense that a corporation in a particular country would only honour warranties for products that they sold in that country. Remember, sales revenues generated locally pay the salaries and cover expenses of those local service centers. Can you imagine trying to sort out the bookkeeping if the Japanese parent had to declare losses in one country for servicing products sold in another? The tax situation would be incomprehensible and it just isn't done.

Joseph A. Benoit August 11th, 2007 01:56 PM

Thanks Tim
i now understand
Joe

Julian Maytum August 11th, 2007 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Jaco (Post 727348)
What was the reason for recommending the HVX over the HD110? Seems a bit strange.

I'd guess better profit margins for him :)

Julian

Scott Jaco August 11th, 2007 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian Maytum (Post 727425)
I'd guess better profit margins for him :)

Julian

I would have said "throw in 2hrs worth of P2 cards, for the same price as the HD110 and you've got a sale!"

Laszlo Horvath August 11th, 2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood (Post 727049)
My dealer just told me the other day he heard about a guy who bought a U.S. camera, got it home, fried the firewire port, but couldn't get it serviced for free in Canada. It would have been free if he had the Canadian warranty.
Also, there is a strong possibility you will get hit with duties, taxes and UPS brokerage fees if you mail it directly to your Canadian address, not to mention extra shipping costs. Even if you have it sent to a U.S. address you legally need to declare it when you cross the border and pay the applicable duties & taxes.
As I'm sure any accountant would tell you, if you are a business owner and have a GST number (or HST) it is beneficial to always buy Canadian because you get the tax back through input tax credits.

Tim, that "guy" who live close to the border and your Ha"ton base dealer, who - better I'm not say name - was extremely pissed because after two KY-27c and few top level editing VCRs and A/B roll controller I turn my back to him and went buy stuff to the States. He is just pissed, nothing else. I saved about $2500-3000 on EACH of my three cameras, a couple grands on my HD-50 VTR and easy around other 2-2 1/2 grands on my HD monitor with the input boards. (these saving altogether are around $13000) Woooow. Down payment for a house.
Now about the fried firewire..... Well you guys need to listen this. First of all it's wasn't a camera it was a HD-50 VTR.
After I fried the firewire board, I called this Canadian dealer - because after that many business to him from me, (I left there in the late '90s around $50000 in the ProVHS era) I thought he may help me. Well he didn't. He told me I need to send to where I bought, to the States and also gave me a JVC Canada's phone # and the technician name. Well, JVC Canada can't fix it under warranty.
So, I sent it to JVC America from Detroit and 12 days later the VTR arrived - fixed and free under warranty.
Now the "funny" thing: At the same time one other JVC HD user from my city had a same problem and he called JVC Canada and the technician (was VERY nice and helpfully) said he need to order the board. The board came in almost three months later. (Yes, about 80-85 days later)
JVC Canada fixed for him, also under warranty for free. Again, the head technician was extremely nice, but some reason he need to wait that long time for the board.
So, now which is better? 12 days or three months without VTR ????????
About GST and PST, I need to pay at the border, when I bring the camera over from the Fedex station in Detroit, where my dealer ship to and later I can write off those taxes, just like if I buy from Canada. The shipping is $39 for ea. camera or VTR and a bit more for the monitor.
Believe my guys, I want to spend my money in my own country, but the price different is HUGE.
About JVC Canada and USA etc. I understand, but how come Viewsonic is Viewsonic everywhere? I buy Viewsonic computer monitor on ebay and Viewsonic cover everything. I need to send to Markham ON. Canada after I call for RMA # and the guy talk to me from California. They do different way and I think that way is waaaaay better for they customers. Just my 2cents.

Laszlo

Douglas Joseph August 15th, 2007 03:37 PM

Anybody know if I can get the rebate or not with my situation. My post is a few above this.


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