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Suzanne Lucas December 4th, 2007 09:54 PM

Editing JVC on a PC
 
I was hoping someone could tell me if the Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 is a good software to use for editing footage from a JVC GY HD100U on a PC. I have the P.C. setup and would like to stay with that. I have been teaching myself every step of the way and it has been a long process and I realize I am about to hit a wall hard with editing and I am trying to make this as painless as possible both with the cost and the learning curve. Please help. Suzanne

Brian Luce December 4th, 2007 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne Lucas (Post 787425)
I was hoping someone could tell me if the Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 is a good software to use for editing footage from a JVC GY HD100U on a PC. I have the P.C. setup and would like to stay with that. I have been teaching myself every step of the way and it has been a long process and I realize I am about to hit a wall hard with editing and I am trying to make this as painless as possible both with the cost and the learning curve. Please help. Suzanne

Have you already purchased premiere? If not, the most user friendly/inexpensive software is Vegas. Works great with JVC.

Joseph A. Benoit December 4th, 2007 11:33 PM

Hello
I agree 100% with Brian.

I have the 110
and vegas works like a charm for me.
Using tape or the Dr hd100/M2t files.

Just my opinion

Joe

Jon Jaschob December 5th, 2007 01:06 AM

I use Adobe PPro2 and Aspect HD from CineForm. I'm very happy with this set up.
Jon

Ted Ramasola December 5th, 2007 03:53 AM

Suzanne,

Edius has presets for the hd100. Rocksolid platform. Using it for corporatework and TVCs. DVDs and theatrical projection.
We were using premiere for more than 10 years. Abandoned them since they introduced the pro. It just became clunky and too heavy for our systems.
We still use their After effects, photoshop and encore products though.

We have 5 edit workstations running Edius in our facility.

Ted

Jim Boda December 5th, 2007 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne Lucas (Post 787425)
I was hoping someone could tell me if the Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 is a good software to use for editing footage from a JVC GY HD100U on a PC...

I'm not sure where Premiere ranks...

But, the top 2 natural editing platforms for the JVC hdv format on the PC would be (IMO) :

1) Grass Valley's Edius
2) Avid's Liquid

Oscar Honorio Pantoja December 5th, 2007 09:00 AM

Premiere
 
Hi guys, I work in premiere pro 2.0 native editing m2t, but cineform???????
No is a good idea. JVC settings for premiere pro 2.0 work editing a m2t files directly.
Better image quality.

K. Tessman December 5th, 2007 11:00 AM

Bull was edited with Premiere Pro and Cineform.

Suzanne Lucas December 5th, 2007 07:37 PM

I have not purchased the software yet I wanted to get some suggestions from people who have actually used the camera and done some editing on the PC first. I called my JVC rep and he really had no answers for me. I was very happy to find this site and I really appreciate all of you taking the time to share your experience and knowledge with me, I think it's great. I will look into these options that have been mentioned.

Bill Ravens December 5th, 2007 07:49 PM

Vegas Pro8 and Cineform

Dennis Tzeng December 5th, 2007 08:33 PM

I use Premiere Pro CS3 and Cineform Aspect HD. Using the native HDV preset doesn't work very well even on a dual core 2.4

Adam Letch December 6th, 2007 05:45 PM

Hey Bill
 
hows it going, it's Cineform Neo HDV for Vegas 8 isn't it? Did they iron out the wrinkles using Cineform and Vegas?
One can't discount at the moment that Avid Liquid supports 50p/60p, even though I'm a Vegas man. FCP also now supports 50/60p.
Though Suzanne,for anything 24/25/30p, Vegas is a solid solution and well priced .
Good Luck

Adam

Suzanne Lucas December 8th, 2007 12:22 AM

Vegas It Is
 
I have taken a look at the Vegas software and I do think that is where I will start. Thank you. I am sure once I get started I will have several more questions so get ready.... I look forward to the day I might actually have some answers.

Mark Cowherd December 12th, 2007 09:38 PM

Does Edius not work with MS Vista?
 
Guys,
I installed the giveaway copy of edius broadcast that i got with my hd 250 and it will not work on my MS windows vista operating system. Am i doing something wrong or is it only for windows XP or is there a patch.
Thanks,
Mark

Jack Walker December 12th, 2007 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Cowherd (Post 791480)
Guys,
I installed the giveaway copy of edius broadcast that i got with my hd 250 and it will not work on my MS windows vista operating system. Am i doing something wrong or is it only for windows XP or is there a patch.
Thanks,
Mark

The Canopus forum is good for getting quick, accurate, short answers from Canopus staff and experienced users on this kind of question.

Brian Luce December 12th, 2007 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Cowherd (Post 791480)
Guys,
I installed the giveaway copy of edius broadcast that i got with my hd 250 and it will not work on my MS windows vista operating system. Am i doing something wrong or is it only for windows XP or is there a patch.
Thanks,
Mark

Yes, you're making a major errror. There's an easy fix though, dump Vista, install
XP Pro. It'll work better than a saline enema.

Vista is a real dog. None of my programs ran on it. I switched backed to XP and everything is perfect. Life is good now.

Bill Ravens December 13th, 2007 08:28 AM

Hi Adam...

I can't say enough good things about Cineform Neo HDv and Vegas. CFHD has saved my bacon, a few times when I was getting black frames when I imported m2t streams into Vegas. Turns out, Vegas 8a is very sensitive to discontinuities in the timecode. At any rate, HDLink read the m2t files very well and transcoded to the Cineform Intermediate without a hiccup.

Marc Colemont December 13th, 2007 09:44 AM

Now a days all these packages provide decent tools. It's just what you are used to, that you like the most.
Myself, I'm having very good and stable results with Cineform in combination with Adobe PPro 2.0.
One rule I learned the hard way is:
As long as one keeps the system clean of tons of small extra packages installed on the XP Pro, it runs very stable. My editing machine is for editing only since 5 years. I don't install try-out software packages, updates, the latest drivers over and over all the time etc...

Werner Wesp December 17th, 2007 05:35 AM

Indeed. Your PC for editing HD should be used for that only. Think of it as a workstation. Sony Vegas is a good choice - but the other work fine as well. It is important to choose an editing program of which you like the interface. Since they all have very similar features it has virtually become a matter of taste.

Do chack out CineForm as well. It is perfect for encoding masters or boosting performance.

Jon Jaschob December 17th, 2007 12:10 PM

[QUOTE=Werner Wesp;793960]Indeed. Your PC for editing HD should be used for that only. Think of it as a workstation. QUOTE]

Although this ^^ is ideal, I use one computer for everything, including trial software, beta software, internet and Aces High (WW2 Fighter Sim). All is well while capture/editing/rendering HD. I simply can't afford a dedicated machine for just editing. So if you have a good machine to begin with, you should be ok running most things normally used in everyday computer life.
Jon

Marc Colemont December 17th, 2007 12:43 PM

Then you should consider a dual boot partition.
One partition with a clean install for editing, and one for internet and trial versions.

Jim Andrada December 17th, 2007 10:54 PM

Or VMware - which is great for trying new stuff. At one time I had a virtual machine dedicated to e-mail and internet browsing only. It worked fine for isolating my main applicaions from Internet garbage. I'm using two separate machines at the moment, but may go back to VMware on one machine. Haven't tried capuring etc in a virtual machine but hope to get around to trying it one of these days.

Suzanne Lucas December 23rd, 2007 10:46 PM

I have the Vegas 8 and I am trying to get it all installed and have hit a bump. Everytime I try to install the Media Manager part It tells me that "SQL Server Setup Unexpectedly Failed". Has anyone else run into this? Help. I am so close........

Adam Letch December 25th, 2007 02:27 AM

hey Suzanne
 
without trying to be fascicious, are you using 8.0a?
I've not encountered the problem, have you used a demo version previously?

Regards

Adam

ps - Merry Christmas to all, may your Christmas's be bright, and safe, and Happy New Year as well.

Brian Luce December 25th, 2007 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne Lucas (Post 797486)
I have the Vegas 8 and I am trying to get it all installed and have hit a bump. Everytime I try to install the Media Manager part It tells me that "SQL Server Setup Unexpectedly Failed". Has anyone else run into this? Help. I am so close........

Are you using Vista? I think this is a known issue with Vegas and Vista.

Suzanne Lucas December 25th, 2007 04:56 PM

I am using 8.0a with no previously installed versions and I am not using Vista. OS is Windows XP SP2 Media Center edition. Sony sent an email and we had tried all of those fixes already. So I am still trying to complete the instalation of my software. Merry Christmas to you as well Adam.

Les Howarth December 26th, 2007 07:21 AM

vegas media manager
 
Media Manager is a separate install isn't it?
It is not essential to have it to run Vegas, I think I remember a few reports of probs like this and some recommendations not to install it.

from the error message, it may require an installation of SQL to run the media database.

I recently got Vegas 8 but for really for DVD Architect, not to use it for editing.
I am using the generators in Vegas to make graphic backgrounds for videos which I edit in Liquid or Edius (which I am trying out at the moment)

Les Howarth.

Reid Bailey December 26th, 2007 12:07 PM

Yet another Vegas vote.
It's extremely powerful and very user friendly.

Suzanne Lucas December 27th, 2007 08:41 AM

Thank You
 
Les, thanks you are indeed correct. I talked with Sony to see what the actual function of Media Manager is (as the name implies it is to manage a large number of media files, go figure) it is not neccesary to run Vegas. I just went in to options-preferences and unchecked the box for Media Manager so I will not get the error message everytime I bring it up. Thanks so much. Have a safe and Happy new Year everyone.


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