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Brian Duke February 26th, 2008 06:29 PM

Any new updates with JVC?
 
I haven't been here in ages, but I was curious if there are any new updates on the JVC camera after the release of 200/250?

Any improvements? Especially since the Red camera came out.

Robert Bec February 27th, 2008 04:48 PM

From what i have heard there will be a update release on the 251 using the larger tapes better low light it will be released here in australia next moth so they say.

Adam Letch February 27th, 2008 06:12 PM

robert where did you get that from
 
is it inside or from the JVC news or something??

Adam

Randy Johnson February 27th, 2008 08:39 PM

My guess is check out NAB.

John Sirb February 27th, 2008 08:51 PM

I think the lower MSRP on the 110 and 200 ( and not the 250) is a signal that something's coming to replace those 2 models.

David Knaggs February 27th, 2008 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sirb (Post 834370)
I think the lower MSRP on the 110 and 200 ( and not the 250) is a signal that something's coming to replace those 2 models.

For JVC's sake, I hope so. I've long considered the JVC to be the premiere sub-$10k HD camera for indie filmmakers with its genuine 1280 X 720 chips and other pro features. But now they seem to have been totally "flanked" by Sony with their release of the PMW-EX1 with its genuine 1920 x 1080 1/2" sensors and 1080p for US$6500. If you were looking for a purchase today would you go for 720p on 1/3" chips or 1080p on 1/2" sensors? Especially with Blu-Ray (a 1080p delivery medium) winning the recent format war.

So I'm interested to see what JVC announce at NAB. If they release 1080p capability on at least 1/2" chips, added to their form factor and interchangeable lens capabilities for sub-$10k they could reclaim the "high ground".

And they could really "flank" Sony if they recorded to CF cards (a la RED) rather than expensive proprietary media (such as Sony and Panasonic). A 16GB SxS card for the PMW-EX1 is $1,300 Australian. This gives 50 minutes of high quality 1080p recording.

If JVC recorded a 4:2:2 intra-frame codec onto a CF card, wow!

Because JVC don't have a "high-end" camera to protect (by limiting features) it's possible they could do this.

So NAB should be interesting.

Mark Silva February 28th, 2008 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Knaggs (Post 834402)
If you were looking for a purchase today would you go for 720p on 1/3" chips or 1080p on 1/2" sensors? Especially with Blu-Ray (a 1080p delivery medium) winning the recent format war.

I own the HD100 and can say I would be looking at 1080P 1/2", hell I'd be looking at 1/2" over 1/3" even if they were both 720P only.

HD DVD was also a 1080P delivery medium btw, just obsolete now :)

Randy Johnson February 28th, 2008 01:08 PM

For what I do 720p is fine, I just want better low light performance. Although I have to say i'll be ticked off no matter what i've already bought my 2 GY-HD100s and dont have a bugdet for new ones. So in that case a nice upgrade to the 100/110 that will improve the low light performance please:)

Jad Meouchy February 28th, 2008 03:20 PM

the Sony XDCAM EX has a rolling shutter, like the HV20, and even like the RED

rolling shutter is bad; it's a dealbreaker for any action sequences or vfx work

stick with the JVC for now, but wait until NAB to see what's announced

Robert Bec March 2nd, 2008 05:27 PM

I heard from actual reps and the guys way above them what is on the way and they said body will be a little different and it will take bigger tapes better low light i hope it records in 1080

Dennis Robinson March 3rd, 2008 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Bec (Post 836361)
I heard from actual reps and the guys way above them what is on the way and they said body will be a little different and it will take bigger tapes better low light i hope it records in 1080

Hi Robert,
I am in Perth. What sort of tapes would hey be if they were bigger?

Robert Bec March 3rd, 2008 04:00 PM

Dennis

the large 3hr jvc HD tapes same size as dvcam tapes so they say

Rob

Giuseppe Pugliese March 10th, 2008 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Silva (Post 834712)
I own the HD100 and can say I would be looking at 1080P 1/2", hell I'd be looking at 1/2" over 1/3" even if they were both 720P only.

HD DVD was also a 1080P delivery medium btw, just obsolete now :)

Just to let everyone know, HD-DVD was NOT a 1080p delivery medium, it was for 720p-1080i. Absolutely no support for actual progressive 1080 footage. This is why it won the war on the tech side... I always liked the sound of "BlueRay" anyway haha.

Daniel Weber March 10th, 2008 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giuseppe Pugliese (Post 839943)
Just to let everyone know, HD-DVD was NOT a 1080p delivery medium, it was for 720p-1080i. Absolutely no support for actual progressive 1080 footage. This is why it won the war on the tech side... I always liked the sound of "BlueRay" anyway haha.

Sorry. Wrong. The higher end HD-DVD players did 1080p.

Sean Adair March 11th, 2008 11:57 AM

I really shouldn't, but for the record, only Toshiba's lowest priced model (of 5 at the end of this debacle) the X-A3 and previously Xa2, were limited to 1080i. Also, when watching 24p originated material, it was de-interlaced in a way to get full progressive frames at the lower frame rate. Only high motion footage was less sharp.

Now we face some prohibitive licensing fees for Blu-ray, and short-run production (as opposed to burning individual discs) is going to be a major downer for the niche and smaller HD video producers.

slap slap, back on track....


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