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Rick Pearson April 1st, 2005 03:33 PM

New HD Camcorder
 
Does anyone know what the camera is on the top of this webpage? It looks like it would be great, but what camera is this?

http://www.dvshop.ca/dvcafe/dv/resources.html

Rick Pearson April 1st, 2005 03:43 PM

Found it
 
JVC's GY-HD100U is the answer to my question.

It's in the 20k price range, but what a camera! This is the HDV camera that is the camera to have (giving exception to CineAlta and Varicam, Viper of course).

HDV looks bright with a camera like this.

Stefan Scherperel April 1st, 2005 03:53 PM

Yeah, it looks nice, until you see the specs on this baby.
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=24050&page=1&pp=20

Rick Pearson April 1st, 2005 04:21 PM

Still a miss.
 
Yeah the specs are nice, but the form factor lacks sorely. I'll take the JVC specs/form factor package anyday over the specs/form factor of the panasonic.

I've learned my lessons over the years shooting on both Professional DVCPro 50 cameras and Prosumer cameras like the XL1s. You can get great images with both, but when it comes to usability you can't do better than a full size, shoulder mountable recorder with a fully manual lense and true B&W viewfinder that has size and weight to it.

I love my XL1s, but it's stock lense is not for the seasoned shooter on a regular schedule, neither is the flimsy, plastic color viewfinder.

JVC has done something great with their new 24p shoulder mountable camera with fujinon lense and hefty viewfinder. Slap a firestore FS-4 Pro on this baby and you're capturing HDV straight to hard disk for one pleasurable workflow from solid camera experience to capture free editing.

Panasonic has done a good thing with their new HDV camera, but P2 is expensive and this camera looks no bigger than the DVX100/a.

Stefan Scherperel April 1st, 2005 04:36 PM

Wow, you would take 720pHDV over 1080P DVCPRO HD?
I too like shoulder mount cameras, but I just find myself using a DVrig pro with my DVX, and that beets any shoulder mount that I have ever used. Plus, the lens on the DVX really is hard to beat, and I'm sure it would be no different on the new camera. But to each his own. Remember, P2 cards may be expensive, but not as expensive as a good quality HD lens. A good B&W CRT viewfinder would also be nice, however I do most of my shooting with a production monitor.

Barry Green April 4th, 2005 02:31 PM

Re: Still a miss.
 
Quote:

I'll take the JVC specs/form factor package anyday over the specs/form factor of the panasonic.

I've learned my lessons over the years shooting on both Professional DVCPro 50 cameras and Prosumer cameras like the XL1s. You can get great images with both, but when it comes to usability you can't do better than a full size, shoulder mountable recorder with a fully manual lense and true B&W viewfinder that has size and weight to it.
Although we haven't seen the JVC yet, from all indications it'll actually be a little *smaller* than your XL1s. It is designed to fit on your shoulder, yes, but I think people will be surprised at just how small it really is.

Ken Hodson April 5th, 2005 03:25 PM

"JVC's GY-HD100U is the answer to my question.
It's in the 20k price range, but what a camera!"

About $8000 is the current running guess. 7000 Euro's.

Heath McKnight April 5th, 2005 03:57 PM

We have a great page on it:

www.hdvinfo.net

heath

Rick Pearson April 8th, 2005 11:43 AM

Size
 
I'm back, I forgot to watch this thread. Anyway, I agree that it does look smaller than the XL1s, but it's design form is what interests me. It doesn't have to be DVCPro size, or feel like a Beta, but it does have to have the majority of it's body length far enough back for it to sit on the shoulder, unlike most cams that just sorta-touch the shoulder.

Stefan, I would rather have DVCPro HD anyday over HDV, but the handheld formfactor of a smaller cam and fixed lense isn't what I need. A good Fujinon lense and sturdy camera is an underestimated thing among us DV shooters, hey I fell for it with the XL1s. When you shoot on a DV camera, and then put your hands on a large DVCPro camera where everything is what it should be, no "cost-effective" substitutions the difference in feel and operation are night and day.

I've shot on almost everything out there, and I love my DV camera, but there's alot to be said for how the camera is built.


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