Thanks Tim. You're The Man...!

Since I use the Mini35 to shoot and sinc eit already has substantial amount of grain, is it still wise to put the Gain up +6?

It is really up to you and what you can tolerate for post-production and final print. Personally, I avoid gain at all costs. If you really want to add more grain, there are plug-ins that do it well.

Just a quick question regarding scene files and user settings- Say I have a 256 MB memory card. Would I be able to set up all of these scene files on it, or am I limited to only a few?

you can only put 4 scene files on a card name EXT1 thru EXT4

you can pop the card into your PC ... this is such a dopey limitation, espcially since the scene files are so small.

so if you have some old 16mb/32mb cards, this is the perfect use for them.

Steve Oakley

Actually, it's more like I bought the wrong 256MB flash card for the Rebel, and discovered it will fit into the HD100. Just trying to find a use for it ;)

A good solution is to have daytime oriented scene files on a card and night time oriented scene files on another.

This is one of the items on the wishlist that got overlooked (badly). 4 scene files is not much, is it?

4 scenes is plenty, if'n you're still trying to figure out how to use them.

Are these recipes just for tv purposes or will it work on the big screen as well?

Are there any considerations/modifications to be made in the recipes if the final objective is a 35mm print?

Thanks for all help.

It really depends if you will have the means to perform a D.I. (Digital Intermediate) or if you will be dependent on strictly optical/chemical lab post processes. If you will not be performing any D.I., then there are considerations with the level of black stretch used to cope with the limitations of 8-bit sampling and choice of exposure index to balance highlight control and desired shadow detail.
There are two schools of thought: "Get it as close as possible in-camera" or "aquire as much information as possible and colour-correct later."
The detail level should also be set very low or at min.
We've discussed these things many times before. Try a search for posts by Andrew Young or myself with the keyword "filmout" or "detail."

I will. Thanks a lot, Tim.

Ok, I did the search for a film noir type setting, and just kept getting referred to this thread. Any noir scenes yet?

If you read the very post in this thread you will see all of the scene files listed, including the film noir setting I created.

You can directly download the zipped scene file or look at a pdf with the recipe.

So... Yes, I was missing it? Thanks, as always, Tim.

Where did you get those nifty color charts to go with your PDF?

Please Add this thread to the top of the heap.

Click here for Brite_OD thread.

Also I've uploaded the scene file "how to" load on SD card tut to Chris' server. Can you please update the original post to reflect it's new location?

Thanks a bunch.

S.Noe

Hey Tim,

The link to the WMV does not work. Is there any other way of getting a detailed explanation on how to load and re-name scene files for download to a card?

Thanks,

Carl

I thought what I wrote before was about as detailed as it could get. It is actually quite a simple two step process. Rename the downloaded SCN file and drag it onto the SD card. That's it.

Oh, ok, thanks.

Thank you.

Would I be correct in saying that you can't use the camera itself as a card reader (which unfortunately I don't have...although I have a Panasonic mini DV cam with USB...that could work eh?)?
Currently playing around with the recipe's kindly posted on this forum...thought I'd first play around with the 'Amelie' recipe. Using this in 25p (SD) the image is extremely shuttery...am I doing something wrong?
Understand the delicate nature or progressive shooting but this quite extreme.
Shutter speed issue...that fact this is not in HDV?
thanks folks.
dave.

You should set your shutter speed to 1/50th for shooting in PAL DV (25P or 50i). The camera process settings will not affect the shutter in any way.

Cheers Tim - not sure why the shutter speed had altered???
Same apply (1/50) for HDV?
must admit I'm struggling a little over CAM1/2 etc and the EXT.SCN and USER buttons?!?! Can the camera store more than 4 scenes whereas you can only store 4 of them on a card?
Can't say I've fallen in love with the JVC manual!

Thanks.
dave

Live Hd30p/hd25p
 

Hey Tim,

Under file manage, what is the selection LIVE HD30P/HD25P used for, and when should it be used for?

Thanks.

Yes. Shutter speed is shutter speed regardless of format. However, similar to what Canon does, the default shutter speed in DV mode is 1/25th on E models (1/24th on U models.) That is something to watch out for when using the camera in DV mode. The default shutter speeds in HDV mode are correct.
There are two user spaces on the camera and max 4 on any size SD card.
It sometimes seems like the English manual was written by an automatic translator (Babelfish.) How many times have you seen "time cord" instead of "timecode?"
They are just factory preset scene files designed as a starting point for new users. I've never used them, so I can't really comment on them.

Cheers Tim.

Cam 1 and 2 then EXT.SCN a through 4 right? I'll have to read up a bit more on this...I figured the User buttons were used for scene files also...and yes th translation is a bit 'wronged up' at times - I'd even asked on another thread what 'time cord' was!

Cheers for the reply.

Thanks Tim.

The external user buttons can be assigned functions in the SWITCH MODE menu. (BARS, PRESET TEMP., B STRETCH 1-2-3, B COMPRESS 1-2-3, AE LEVEL + or -)

These buttons cannot be used to recall scene files.

broken links to Stephen Noe's scene files
 

Most of the links published are broke for recipe

Thanks Tim - I'm getting there!

Thank you all on this thread for your knowledge. I´ve learned a lot about camerasettings to achieve a special look in-cam. Does somebody know if this is doable on a (for example) Sony DSR570. I´m about to do a shooting of a theatrical piece with 3 Sony 570 and a JVC 101.The Sonys will work from long to mid-range and the JVC go extremclose on one actors face. I would like to have a bleachout look from all of them but less so from the JVC101.

Thanks for all the reciepe on scene files.

Hello. I've been using Tim's various receipes (color reversal, warm), Stephen's panamatch, and Paolo's TC the past few months. All of them are great and have their own uses. Which HD100 setting do you guys think is the closest to Steven Dempsey's panalook (XL-H1)?

Here's an example footage (warning, large download):

http://www.realm.cc/upload/disjecta/FridayHarbor.wmv

That's really special George, I'm struggling to believe this is from the same camera I have in front of me (still learning the multitude of elements that go into this and I haven't as yet had chance to film in high def).
Big file indeed...my PC struggled to catch up with it unfortunately, meaning the scenes stuttered.
Is this for a film project?

It's one of Steven Dempsey's short subject films. It's pretty amazing that he can get that kind of quality from an XLH1. I'm pretty sure an HD100 can create stunning pictures like that, too. I just want to see what settings would be appropriate. I think the closest is probably Steven's panamatch setting shot during magic hour :-)

I am still downloading but that is an amazing video.

Oh - sorry I thought it was the HD100...still fantastic footage.

I may have mentioned this on another thread but I recently used Paulo's tru colour 3 setting on a recent job. It was very bright day and I only had the on board ND filters and iris reduction at hand. From what I've read, this scene file was more for HDV than SD (I was using Standard Def - 25p) - as such some of the colours are a little bleached in parts.
Is there a suitable scene file for Standard Definition - these are small corporate jobs so a middle of the road setting would suffice (mainly filming exterior buildings/inside of shops/bars etc).

Many thanks.

Would I be correct in stating that following the scene files on this forum (which are in the main for the NTSC market) would cause me a little trouble?
They clearly look great from the footage shown on here, but as mentioned on my post above shooting in 25p (SD) some of my outdoor scenes were 'roasted' almost.
I guess I need a British Paulo, Tim et al...other than that hire a DP, which at the moment I can't really afford (same applies to a decent portable monitor).

Cheers,
Dave.

When using one of the Scene Files for a Project, what is the proper way to credit the designers?

Steve, I would add a personal thank you note on the end credits (eg. Special thanks to Tim Dashwood for Bleach Bypass - HD100 camera setting, same with Paolo and Stephen's stuff).