Editing Sanyo MP4 files
 

Just thought some might be interested in my experiences in trying to edit the Sanyo MP4 files (I have the HD1010).

I have tried many editors, including Premier Pro CS4 and Sony Vegas Pro, neither of which can handle the Sanyo files properly. Premier keeps crashing every few minutes and Vegas wants to generate 700 GB (yes gigabytes) renders of a 60 minute video.

I then tried the Womble MPEG Video Wizard, and much to my surprise it handled the Sanyo files flawlessly. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of PP or Vegas, but it does work and generates acceptabley sized final output.

So for those of you trying to figure out how to edit your Sanyo MP4 files, might I suggest you give the Womble MPEG Video Wizard a look.

Thank goodness for GOOGLE
 

Thanks for the information, checking it out now, and for the rest of you........

MPEG editor and DVD editor - Womble Multimedia, Inc.

Darn..........
 

I can not get past loading a small file and trying to play it ?????

Just crashes the program and close after this error message.........

Getting video to work properly on your PC seems to be one of those things that works when the gods of video are smiling on you, or has nothing but problems when they aren't.

I have multiple PC's and none of them are the same when it comes to video. But for editing video, I have a dedicated machine. The ONLY software loaded is for video editing. Nothing else.

In your case, it may be something as simple as a corrupt download, so it may be worth redownloading the software to see if a new download solves your problem.

Otherwise, you might want to look at what else is running on your computer and shut everything down and then try the program again.

I know of at least one instance where a program developer is telling users to make sure none of the 'codec packs' floating around are on the machine as they will create problems.

If all else fails, then you could wipe the hard drive and reload windows from scratch.

More than likely your problem is windows related. You are using XP right, not that bloated POS vista?

yeah i was struggling with this aswell when i started to edit my videos from japan last summer. first i tried vegas and it crashed a lot, then premiere but it was slow and didnt interpret the files correctly.
the way i got around it was making low res proxies which i would edit in premiere, and before exporting i would swap out the files for the full res clips.
all scripted and automated ofcourse.
im planning to make a tutorial one of these days and give away the scripts if anyone would be interested in this workflow..

DVD Wizard by Womble
 

I have had a similar problem, editing Sanyo MPG4 files. I got The Womble program to work fine, until I realized the files were first exported out of the Uleed program which I tried and was not happy with it. When I tried to download the files direct out of the camera or the memory card direct it would not work and kept crashing. How do you download the files into the Womble program? Fred

I use a card reader. Then using windows explorer I 'Copy' from the SDHC card and 'Paste' to a directory on my hard drive to transfer the files from the SDHC to my computer.

Then I use Womble to import the files. If you need specifics for Womble, I will have to post that later as I am currently having a problem with my graphics board.

Editing Sanyo MP4 Files
 

I have tried what John suggested with the card reader, but it does not work on my set up, has anybody else got any suggestions? I know that a Mac Book laptop will handle the files and edit them, however the price is a bit steep. Fred

MPG4 Files
 

I have been trying for several days to load MP4 files direct into Womble, it does not work! The only way to get files into Womble is to convert them to MPG2 files through another program such as Uleed or Nero, so it looks as if I have to purchase a Mac Book which handles the MP4 files without problem in it's internal video editing program.

Just curious, but what version of the Womble MPEG Video Wizard are you using?
Mine is v4.0.4.111 (Dec 9, 2008)

Yes, mine is same
 

John, that is the same date and number on my evaluation copy. I have tried just using only that program as you suggested but no luck - and yes, running Vista Ultimate on a Dell 1720.
Have not been able to do anything with it lately, so not too worried about it right now, as very busy with work! thanks, John

I'm running XP Pro SP3, so it may well be a vista XP thing.

Personally I won't touch vista with a ten foot pole.

MPG4 Editing
 

I have the 4.0.4.112 Version of Womble MPEG Video Wizard. Fred

Something just occured to me. Are you using an evaluation copy or a fully licensed/purchased copy? It's possible that the MP4 support is not activated in the evaluation copy.

Can anyone shed any light on this? I know in Premier Pro, the MPEG support is not activated in the evaluation copy. You have to have a fully licensed copy to gain MPEG support. Possibly Womble is the same.

To John Hedgecoe
 

Yes I am using a trial copy, and I have had some support from the womble team,they are checking out one of the files I was trying to download, haven't had a reply yet. Thanks John!

Editing Sanyo MP4 files with Premiere
 

Hi,
I'm interested in buying one of the new Sanyo Xacti cameras (HD2000), so I've been doing a lot of research on them. I've been looking for all the Sanyo MP4 clips I can find to throw at my editing programs to see how they handle them. I've found a few clips which I've downloaded and tried with both Premiere Pro CS4 and Edius 5. Neither of them handles them perfectly and in real time, but at the same time, I don't have the crashing problems other seem to be having. I'm running my programs in Vista Ultimate 32 (which I was skeptical of, but hasn't failed me yet), with 4GB of RAM and a Core 2 Duo Extreme (3GHz) Intel processor. I'm presently looking into H.264 codecs (like Cineform or Mainconcept) that may help to improve performance.

If anyone has Sanyo MP4 clips available for download, I'll gladly accept them. I'll also keep you up-to-date with anything that can help with this thread.

Cheers,
Colin

NOTE: All the clips so far have been in 720p, and it may be worth it to note that the new HD2000 does 1080/60p @ 24MB/s, which is a significantly bigger ball of wax!

So, Vegas Pro outputs a 700 gig file for a 60 minute video? Of course it will if you choose to render to an uncompressed AVI file!!!! What codec did you choose to render to? This is all that matters. The size of the file will be determined by the compression of the codec you choose. If you want to output to a MP4 codec, then you need to have one installed that allows you to encode (not only decode)!

I've used Vegas 8.0c and Vegas 8.1 (the 64 bit version) to edit MP4 video from my Sanyo Xacti without any problems.

I have the Sony EX1 and do a LOT of editing of those (1080P) files without any problems using both Premier Pro and Vegas 8.

When I tried to render the HD1010 files, the program output a 700GB file - NOT in uncompressed avi format but mpeg.

Frankly I just did not want to waste my time trying to trouble shoot for this toy camera. So I looked elsewhere and found that womble worked without any fuss or bother.

End of story.

That program just crashes on my HD1000 files as well.
I'm trying to convert them but I'm hugely confused on the files.
Are they 29.94 in a 59.94 wrap or something ?
Do I need to do a 3:2 pull down ?
I'm in the UK, and it's really really really really annoying that these cameras are set to NTSC even though they are official UK cameras.

Any updates on this?

Just got the Sanyo FH1. The 60p MP4 files crashed Vegas when I tried to bring them into my project. Recorded some footage at 60i. If I bring the 60i footage into Vegas 1st, then I can use the 60p footage. Obviously something funny going on in Vegas with these Sanyo MP4 files.

Hello, Ron!

Can you upload samples with fast water scenes like surfing/windsurfing/kite (raw footage) at 1080p60 from Sanyo FH1 ?

Thank you in advance.

P.S. amazing underwater videos on your vimeo channel!

Sorry, no surfing scenes around NY, but I did recently upload some footage of ducks on moving water fully zoomed in.

Thanks, underwater video is my big hobby. The Sanyo is for casual topside or for when I want to go unoticed. Although, it would probably do pretty well underwater. Only problem is most of the manufacturers only make waterproof housings for Canon and Sony camcorders.

Ron, thanks for ducks - they are good surfers :)

I had to return my VPC-FH1. It was getting purple banding on the right hand side from the top to the bottom. I read one other guy was getting the same thing. It wouldn't happen all the time but when it would show up it would be for about 4 clips in a row. I think on all the clips it happened on I was shooting 1080 60P at 1/1000 when I was shooting action stuff.

I want to rebuy it though, it's a great little sports/action/slowmo cam.

I think these 1920x1080 60p MP4 files are too new for the editing programs to handle properly. For now, I will convert them to AVI intermediates or shoot in 30P. Still haven't decided. Will probably have to do some head to head testing before I make my decision.

After effects handled them fine and I was able to render to a uncompressed 60P file but it had terrible preview performance in Vegas. I was hoping that Neo Scene would work for the 60P videos but I can't get a response.

The cineform plugin that comes free with vegas pro8 can't handle the 1920x1080 60p files. Gives me an error. I've been using the Sony YUV option to go to AVI. Plays in vegas fine. I should try to download the cineform neo scene trial version to compare.

i would love this Olas

Downloaded the trial version of Cineform Neo Scene to convert the 1920x1080 60p files for use in Vegas.

Cineform conversion is quick, can be batched and avi files work well in Vegas. Now I know why Cineform is so popular.