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Philippe Gosselin October 19th, 2003 04:38 PM

Capturing DV with USB
 
Can I it or do i absolutly need a firewire port.

Premiere doesn't see it and when i switch from CARD to TAPE on the cammy XP stop recognizing the cam.


Thanks a lot guys for the info and help

Chris Hurd October 19th, 2003 05:17 PM

Hello Philippe,

It is not possible to capture DV through the USB jack. USB doesn't have a video recognition layer. You must capture DV through FireWire. Adding a FireWire port to your computer is simple and inexpensive (usually well under $50USD). Hope this helps,

Philippe Gosselin October 19th, 2003 08:40 PM

Thanks a lot Chris ,


Guess it is time to buy that new Sound blaster Audigy WITH firewire port , don't you think !!! ;)

Yung Mah September 3rd, 2008 09:55 PM

USB to Firewire adapter
 
Has anyone tried this adapter

Pixela 1394 to USB 2.0 Capture Cable. Transfer your camcorder video to your PC or laptop via USB 2.0. One of a kind product!

Thanks

John Miller September 4th, 2008 07:44 AM

It converts the DV to MPEG-1 (not even MPEG-2!) and that's what you capture.

Chris Hurd September 4th, 2008 08:43 AM

Man, I *never* thought I'd see the day arrive when the "USB to FireWire adapter" became a reality. For the longest time, this idea was in the realm of the "VHS to 8mm adapter" and the "Diesel to gasoline adapter." Amazing. Still can't recommend it for the reasons John points out above, but it's worth noting that thirteen years after the advent of FireWire, this thing has finally happened.

Louis Maddalena September 4th, 2008 09:40 AM

I will never forget my high school tv teacher wanted to explain to us that just because there is an adapter it doesn't mean it would work. He used an example of a garden hose to power outlet adapter, he made one at his house and brought it in and asked us if it would work.

They obviously woudln't sell it if it didn't work, but its not really an adapter its converting the dv signal to something else. Either way, I wouldn't trust it.

John Miller September 4th, 2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd (Post 929184)
Man, I *never* thought I'd see the day arrive when the "USB to FireWire adapter" became a reality. For the longest time, this idea was in the realm of the "VHS to 8mm adapter" and the "Diesel to gasoline adapter." Amazing. Still can't recommend it for the reasons John points out above, but it's worth noting that thirteen years after the advent of FireWire, this thing has finally happened.

Actually, Chris, it's been out for 2 or 3 years. Just hasn't broken through.

Shaun Roemich September 4th, 2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis Maddalena (Post 929214)
I will never forget my high school tv teacher wanted to explain to us that just because there is an adapter it doesn't mean it would work. He used an example of a garden hose to power outlet adapter, he made one at his house and brought it in and asked us if it would work.

Do you still have the schematics for that? Life is kinda boring around here these days. Perhaps I'll build one and "see what happens". <grin>

Joey Gowdy November 12th, 2008 05:32 PM

IEEE 1394 Cable ??
 
I'm being forced to use my eMachines w3623 Desktop as an editor since my AlienWare a51 m7700 Laptop melted down a couple days ago.

So... is there an IEEE-1394 4-pin cable that can run from the XL1s to a USB v2 port?

Giroud Francois November 12th, 2008 05:36 PM

i start to understand why your Pc melted down :-)

Steve House November 12th, 2008 05:48 PM

Nope, the IEEE1394 is a FireWire port and cable. USB V.anything is a totally different animal completely. Don't even THINK of connecting one to the other directly, even if you can manage to force the connectors together..

Joey Gowdy November 12th, 2008 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giroud Francois (Post 962764)
i start to understand why your Pc melted down :-)

Unfortunately, that partuicular AlienWare model has over-heating issues... will be sending it back to them for a complete makeover as usual (free of charge thankfully).


Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve House (Post 962773)
Nope, the IEEE1394 is a FireWire port and cable. USB V.anything is a totally different animal completely. Don't even THINK of connecting one to the other directly, even if you can manage to force the connectors together..

That figures... any alternatives? What about going tapeless by attaching an external harddrive to the XL1s, recording to it, then transfering it using the USB v2 sockets or some other method?

Edward Carlson November 12th, 2008 06:44 PM

Well you can't just record to an external hard drive. If you have a FireStore or something similar, you can, but not just any old hard drive. You can buy a FireWire PCI card for your computer. It should be a straight forward install.

Chris Hurd November 12th, 2008 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Gowdy (Post 962763)
So... is there an IEEE-1394 4-pin cable that can run from the XL1s to a USB v2 port?

Believe it or not, strange as it may seem, yes there is such a thing:

USB to FireWire DV Adapter - NTSC - US Version

However, it costs $120. You'll be *much* better off if you simply add a $30 FireWire card to your computer.

Joey Gowdy November 12th, 2008 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd (Post 962800)
Believe it or not, strange as it may seem, yes there is such a thing:USB to FireWire DV Adapter - NTSC - US VersionHowever, it costs $120. You'll be *much* better off if you simply add a $30 FireWire card to your computer.

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for... however it says "...not yet Vista compatible..."

Nate Haustein November 12th, 2008 08:16 PM

Best Solution: $4 firewire card for the emachine

Might Work solution: Get an external hard drive with firewire and USB ports. Attach camera to the hard drive via firewire, then hook up hard drive via USB to your computer. Daisy chain. Works on mac at least.

Dan Keaton November 12th, 2008 08:50 PM

Dear Joey,

While a IEEE 1394 (Firewire) and USB may seem similar, they are vastly different. Firewire is designed for low latency, which is required to properly capture your footage without dropouts.

Capturing footage from your Canon XL1s is a fairly demanding activity, as far as the computer is concerned.

You can save yourself a lot of trouble by getting a proper firewire card and then connecting your XL1s to the firewire card.

Note: You will need a 4-pin to 6-Pin Firewire cable as most all firewire cards have a 6-pin firewire connection.

Note: You need an original IEEE 1394 Firewire card (400 Mhz) and not IEEE1394b which is 800 Mhz. The original is also known as IEEE 1394a.

As strange as it may sound, the best practice when connecting firewire cables is to have your computer and camera off. Then connect the cables and power up both devices. I recommend that you power up the computer first, then after the bootup sequence is complete, power up your camera.

This may sound like a like of trouble, but it could save you from blowing out your Firewire port on the camera, or the computer.

You want a direct connection from your camera to the firewire port on your computer. Daisy chaining may work, but is not a good idea.

Tripp Woelfel November 12th, 2008 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Gowdy (Post 962763)
I'm being forced to use my eMachines w3623 Desktop] as an editor...

Strangely enough, I used an e-Machines box for a video editing training project about 3 years ago and it worked really well for the basic stuff. I added a 1394 card and built the memory up to 512Mb or maybe 1GB. Captured like a champ and I could use cuts and basic transitions without any real issues. It wasn't all that much slower than my main machine at the time.

You might want to hang on to your eMachine setup after you get your big box back. With an external USB drive, you can capture to it while you're editing on alien. When you're ready for the next project, you can copy in the footage whilst you sleep. I do this all the time.

Joey Gowdy January 13th, 2009 06:50 PM

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Just wanted to post a follow-up, I purchased a cord on eBay a while back and it has worked perfectly, I was going to get this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220316077232 but got this instead http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=310084988274

Ervin Farkas January 14th, 2009 01:01 PM

I am puzzled - together with hundreds of others here... The cable you purchased is a USB to USB-mini cable - as far as I can tell from the eBay photo and description.

How did you use it? What did you use it for? To capture video? What format - DV or HDV?

Please elaborate.

Matt Ratelle January 14th, 2009 05:25 PM

To my knowledge there is no way to convert from USB to Firewire just by using a wire with different connectors. I could be wrong, but I'd bet a shiny nickle I'm not.

Bill Koehler January 20th, 2009 12:04 AM

Looking at the cable+connectors on the left...

I think the idea with that cable is that it provides generic transport.
Need something different? Pop the appropriate adapters on, on BOTH ends.

Need Firewire? Pop a 6 pin FireWire adapter on one end, a 4 pin FireWire adapter on the other, and you're in business to go from computer to camcorder.

Trying to go from USB (computer) to FireWire (camcorder) WILL NOT WORK.
The adapters on both ends of the cable need to be of the same family type. (USB, FireWire, whatever).

Lubi Kocheleva August 21st, 2009 12:20 AM

Firewire to USB converter for capture?
 
Hello,

I hope someone can help with a solution for this.

I have a Sony PC330E mini DV camera and have been using the iLink (firewire 4pin to 8pin) cable to capture footage into Premier on my Mac.

I have a new PC laptop (Acer Aspire 4736G) wich is soooo much faster than my old battered powerbook but it does not have a Firewire port. To add insult to injury it doesn't have a data card port either.

So, I only have USB ports at my disposal and am at a total loss as to how to capture footage without adding another laptop to my daily trips out on the boat (dive gear, camera, housing, laptops)

I have purchased a little converter which has USB on one end and firewire on the other, however when plugged in through this the camera appears as Unknown Device and capturing is not possible.

Is there another product / drivers / anything I can use to capture?

Thank you all in advance for your thoughts, any ideas will be appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Lubi

Andrew Smith August 21st, 2009 02:53 AM

In short, no. And I suspect you may not have purchased the best laptop for your needs, either.

If it was a regular PC, I'd suggest buying a firewire card for it. For a laptop, I can only suggest a PCMCIA card such as this one. See if it works for you.

Andrew

Bryan Sellars August 21st, 2009 04:40 AM

How about using a dvd recorder with firewire in and making an mpeg2 then edit that if you use a program that does smart render you will get very good results.


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