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Chris Hurd April 22nd, 2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Lawry (Post 865193)
... this camera is being touted as an DVX100 replacement.

The DVX100 is standard definition. This camera is high definition.

Randy Johnson April 22nd, 2008 07:54 AM

oh I see well it may be to soon for those kinda price drops in the HD world.

Dwain Elliott April 22nd, 2008 09:18 AM

The best VALUE?
 
Upon further thought, I'll have to agree with Randy and Joe that the pricing for this unit is just about right on the mark.

I consult with new and emerging non-profits and faith-based organizations, and I was hoping for a "miracle" affordable camcorder that "has it all" that I could recommend to my clients. With all its limitations, that'll probably be the HMC70.

Joe Lawry April 22nd, 2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Hurd (Post 865203)
The DVX100 is standard definition. This camera is high definition.

Well yes of course Chris, and that reason IS why it will be priced higher.

I was just trying to explain why people are reacting like they are to the current announced price point.

Barry Green April 22nd, 2008 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwain Elliott (Post 864815)
I agree that "under $4500" is still too high for this camcorder.

Depends on how FAR under $4500. :) I'm hoping for a street price of $3500 and an MSRP of $3995.

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I'm sure the weak dollar has a lot to do with the pricing.
You ain't kidding on that one. Everyone I talked to from Japan said the same thing. They won't quote a firm price largely, I believe, because there's no way to know what the exchange rate will be six months from now when the unit actually ships.

Barry Green April 22nd, 2008 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Alexander (Post 865005)
Any word on what frame rates this will shoot at?

720/24p, 720/30p, 720/60p, 1080/24p, 1080/30p, 1080/60i.

Barry Green April 22nd, 2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Johnson (Post 865138)
2 things 1. I wonder how it will handle itself in low light espcially compared to my GY-HD100s

Uses the same chipset as the HVX200A. The HVX and HD100 were about the same, noise and sensitivity-wise. The HVX200A is a half-stop faster (500 ISO instead of 320) and much cleaner in noise. You could probably gain up by at least 3dB, if not 6dB, before matching the HVX/HD100 noise level. So, as far as a practical matter goes, the 150 should (SHOULD) be around a stop faster for equivalent grain, maybe as much as 1.5 stops faster.

Barry Green April 22nd, 2008 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Lawry (Post 865193)
and the dvx is a lot cheaper than $4500.

Well, it is NOW. But for the first five years of its life, the DVX was priced at $3795 to $3995.

Ethan Cooper April 23rd, 2008 10:34 AM

Good point. I forgot about that.

Randy Johnson April 23rd, 2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry Green (Post 865733)
Uses the same chipset as the HVX200A. The HVX and HD100 were about the same, noise and sensitivity-wise. The HVX200A is a half-stop faster (500 ISO instead of 320) and much cleaner in noise. You could probably gain up by at least 3dB, if not 6dB, before matching the HVX/HD100 noise level. So, as far as a practical matter goes, the 150 should (SHOULD) be around a stop faster for equivalent grain, maybe as much as 1.5 stops faster.


I assume when you say "faster" you mean "brighter" which means it may be anywhere from .5 to 1.5 stops brighter than the GY-HD100. thats a pretty big deal for me.

Mikel Arturo April 23rd, 2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry Green (Post 865732)
720/24p, 720/30p, 720/60p, 1080/24p, 1080/30p, 1080/60i.

No SD recording?

Chris Hurd April 23rd, 2008 11:50 AM

Standard definition recording is not an option with AVCHD camcorders.

Frank Genus April 23rd, 2008 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Hurd (Post 866131)
Standard definition recording is not an option with AVCHD camcorders.

??? my Sony HDR-SR1 can record SD. Granted, the resulting file isn't AVCHD, but it IS an AVCHD camcorder ;)

Mikel Arturo April 23rd, 2008 12:11 PM

Bufff, this means bye-bye DVD.
And I don't think that DVD format will dissapear soon. At this time, is the universal format to deliver video. How many time it will survive? I don't know, but sure one or two years, or more as "universal compatible" to deliver a work (very cheap and acceptable quality).
Yes, you can record HD and downconvert by software, but it means a lot of time, files, space on your computer.
SD option is great for conferences, INTERNET and a lot of works that don't requiere HD.
It's sad if camcorder makers ignore this niche.

Chris Hurd April 23rd, 2008 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Genus
my Sony HDR-SR1 can record SD

I stand corrected then. It's not an option with Panasonic Pro-Line or Canon VIXIA AVCHD camcorders.


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