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Allan Rejoso April 26th, 2004 08:09 PM

Re: Allan, Mx8000 etc
 
<<<-- Originally posted by John Haskins :

I dont have to have a Black Mamba - i was curious about it, but if we are on the heels of a new model that might be better - i may wait.

Yes, you'd better wait for this GS400 or the upcoming Opturas.


I dont know yet. Is Panasonic going to go HDV in 2004, early '05?

HDV is the only way to go, but it will probably take YEARS before a $1K HDV cam would be made available. In the meantime, enjoy shooting in DV format.



If there were no GS100 - what is the next best thing in the price range of the GS100 or lower ---- looking for clean color, etc.

Every cam make has its strong points and weak point so in the end, it's mostly a matter of preferences. But if you can afford to spend for top-class consumer cams and willing to do so, then IMO you might as well stick to that class. This is just a personal thing but I like the Canon Opturas too (there is something about the Canon look that I really like - and I have one). Also, I feel the Sony PC300 video looked great (despite my bias against Sony's color saturation) and I find its new touch-screen menu to be cool. One more thing, good quality widescreen has become important to me since last year (and on that aspect my black mamba blows my Optura100 away), although there are some issues when it comes to sharing video with friends and relatives who own 4:3 TVs.

You can also have a look at top class models of previous years (the Pany 953, the 852, JVC's 3000/4000/5000 and of course Optura100 are good cams too) and they should be a lot cheaper now.

Good luck!

Frank Granovski April 26th, 2004 08:33 PM

Re: "JVC's 3000/4000/5000"

Missed one: 3000/3500/4000/5000.

John Haskins April 26th, 2004 09:17 PM

Allan, Mx8000 etc
 
Thanks, Allan and Frank.

I want a 3 chip for sure - going to do some serious keying and I need the best color separation i can get.

i know DV isnt the best for keying, but there are workarounds, enhancements, etc.

So in the 3 chip realm, i still like the GS100 for now.

Optura is still a 1 chip, right?

Thanks,
John

Allan Rejoso April 26th, 2004 09:30 PM

The 2 contending design (marketing) concepts right now:

3 small CCDS and small optics, against, 1 big multi-MP CCD and huge lens with RGB filter.

Which is more important to you, sharpness or color richness and accuracy?

Yow Cheong Hoe April 26th, 2004 09:49 PM

I'll go for bight and bright lens, optical stabiliser and true resolution (540 lines). The sensor should be sensitive to 1 lux illumination, and the colour should be accurate (not rich, just rich enough). As a matter of fact, the camera that I like is available in the market, but paying US$10,000 for a camera is not possible for a structural engineer in Signapore.

John Haskins April 27th, 2004 07:59 AM

3 ccd or 1 big MP
 
I was not aware of that trend - i havent caught up on all the latest technology trends in this area.
color accuracy & richness is more desirable.
which cams sport this 1 big MP ccd?

Thanks, guys.
John

Allan Rejoso April 27th, 2004 06:30 PM

PC330, 1/3" 3MP, RGB Filter

Optura X1/300, 1/3.4" (ok it's 5/17" :-)), 2.2MP, RGB Filter

John Haskins April 27th, 2004 07:17 PM

MP ccd, allan
 
wow, i didnt know this.

so how does that Optura look, ALLan. How would it work for keying work - greens, etc.

thanks,
John

Frank Granovski April 28th, 2004 04:14 PM

1/3.4" = .294"
1/3" = .333"

John Haskins April 28th, 2004 08:01 PM

frank
 
frank, what do those numbers mean?

would you feel comfortable shooting with the mp ccd thing for a good green key result?

anyone?

thanks,
john

John Haskins April 28th, 2004 08:05 PM

i have heard
 
THAT most ALL of the foreign PAL markets… are getting set to receive LAST YEAR’s MX7000
as a GS400 - as one source claims he has been told.

AND THAT A SUCCESSOR TO THE MX7000 (GS100) WILL BE ANNOUNCED FIRST WEEK OF JUNE 2004 and rolled out in the 3rd Week of 2004

I THINK THIS IS GOING TO PROVE TRUE.

George Beck April 28th, 2004 08:41 PM

John you are wrong. Or your source is, anyway.
look at what specs/info Pana-UK, Pana-BE, Pana-ES are posting.
GS400 is NOT GS100.

please don't throw disinformation without even checking it first.

you got June right.. that about the time GS400 will be announced... and in July becomes available.

here's some RELIABLE info:
specs part 1
specs part 2
specs part 3



ps. John.. reading good ol' supervideo.com , eh? =))

John Haskins April 28th, 2004 09:49 PM

hey come on, George
 
as you can see, i am not a "new boot" anymore, so how bout a little respect! :))))

Thanks. ---JOHN

George Beck April 28th, 2004 09:58 PM

=)
don't take it personally, it's just silly to go over the same things again ;)
look at the specs for GS400 and GS100 and you'll see how different they are..

Frank Granovski April 28th, 2004 10:24 PM

Listen up! What all of you GS400 info seekers should be doing is contacting Panasonic. Here is Pana's contact page:

http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/cs/index.html

Make sure you post the replies here. :-))

George Beck April 28th, 2004 11:45 PM

Frank, I don't think whomever is answering the e-mails will be privet to that information anyway...

but.. I think you should bug Pana-canada =) to order a few GS400 for us too... and nag them for the high prices.
DV953 is between 700 and 1000$ (depending on the dolar rate) more expensive here than in US!

US msrp - 1499$ = about 2050$Can (at can$/us = 0.73c)
Canadian msrp 2750$

who would buy in Canada...?

Frank Granovski April 30th, 2004 03:34 AM

Quote:

who would buy in Canada...?
Dumb Canadians, loyal Canadians and very rich Canadians, and cetainly not Americans.

George Beck April 30th, 2004 05:24 AM

I guess I'm not one of them =/
but I promise I'll pay mytaxes this year!... hmmm I think I was supposed to do that already... oops :)


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