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Jim Nogueira May 5th, 2017 04:54 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
This camera is definitely worth considering, though I don't understand why there is so little info, and so few reviews. The Sony Z150 is also worth considering in this price range. If your work is geared more towards documentary work and not run and gun, the JVC LS300 (which I own) is a bargain.

Len Rosenberg May 7th, 2017 08:50 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Thanks Jim. Can anyone tell me if the HC-X1 has lanc control?

Len

Len Rosenberg May 7th, 2017 12:35 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Found the user manual on line, apparently it does, but they call it "remote control", no reference to lanc.

Paul Kellett May 7th, 2017 01:11 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Yes there is lanc control on the HC-X1, i've got a controller, Libec ZC-3DV, it controls zoom in and out and record start stop.
There is another controller which also controls i think focus and iris, however, with that controller connected to the camera the actual rings on the lens no longer respond to being moved, which means you're doing everything with the right thumb !!
I've got left hand on the lens rings, right thumb on the controller on the tripod arm
I hope this helps.

https://www.hpreston.co.uk/libec-zc3...iGkaAr428P8HAQ

Paul.

Pete Cofrancesco May 7th, 2017 01:12 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
It takes the two cable variety. Wired remote yes, lanc no. I use a VariZoom controller it has dials for focus and iris, record btn , auto/man switch for focus and iris, and a rocker to zoom.

Paul Kellett May 7th, 2017 01:14 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Mine is only one cable, small jack plug into the camera.

Paul.

Matt Bigwood May 7th, 2017 01:15 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
I bought a Varizoom remote which also allows remote focus and aperture control: VariZoom VZROCKPZFI | Panasonic Zoom / Focus / Iris Control via two plugs.

Paul Kellett May 7th, 2017 01:17 PM

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Matt, does that one disable the lens ?
I tried one in the shop on mine and it disabled the lens which is why i didn't get it, i can't remember what make it was though.

Paul.

Matt Bigwood May 7th, 2017 01:39 PM

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No, this one works really well.

I first bought a Libec ZFC 5HD and that allowed remote focusing but it meant the aperture was always on auto, so I returned it and got the Varizoom.

Len Rosenberg May 10th, 2017 07:07 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Just ordered an HC-X1, should arrive by this weekend. The manual says that the camera is compatible with SDXC cards from 48 to 128 GB, as of November 2016. San Disk makes a Class 3 SDXC card of 512GB. Any one know if the camera will work with the 512GB card, or any card larger than 128GB?
Thanks,
Len

Len Rosenberg May 10th, 2017 07:55 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
I called Panasonic technical support and they said all of their camcorders and cameras are limited to 128 GB cards, due to "video rights", whatever that means.

Vaughan Wood May 10th, 2017 06:24 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Well I've been using Lexar 256 GB cards in the DVX200 and AG-AC160 without any dramas since they came out!
Cheers,, Vaughan

Pete Cofrancesco May 10th, 2017 07:25 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
I'm thinking of picking up a 256. I was recently filming 4k on a 128 and ran out of space. It's a weird camera the rec light starts blinking red and I couldn't tell if was going to stop recording or switch to the other card. The red light for the other card didn't turn on so I was freaking.

Len Rosenberg May 10th, 2017 07:42 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Thanks for the replies. Pete, if you try the 256 gb card on the HC-x1, let me know if it works, and you can use all of the 256 gb.

Thanks,

Len

John Estcourt May 10th, 2017 11:47 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
SanDisk 256gb cards work fine. Been using them for several months.

Len Rosenberg May 11th, 2017 06:00 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Thanks. Have you been able to use all 256 GB?

John Estcourt May 11th, 2017 01:00 PM

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Hi Len, I've never filled a card but certainly I have been close and well over 128gb before. I shoot with 2x 256gb cards, simultaneously Hope this helps. John.

Len Rosenberg May 12th, 2017 05:42 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Thanks John. I'll try a 256 gb card and see how it goes.

Len

Len Rosenberg May 26th, 2017 06:12 AM

Panasonic HC-X1 white balance
 
Hi all, just received my HC-X1 and trying to do an initial set up. Having trouble with the white balance. Shooting indoors with 3200K LED lights. The screen read out says 3200, but the colors on the flip out screen are way off with weird color casts. It's not a problem with the lights because my Canon XF-100 nailed the colors with no problem. I have attempted to read the manual, but it is barely understandable. I changed to manual, and have cycled through Ach Bch, etc, but there is no improvement. Can anyone explain to me how to set the white balance so what I see is what i get? Thanks.

Paul Anderegg May 26th, 2017 06:32 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Perform a PUSH TO WHITE on A or B, to determine what that camera "thinks" is incandescent white. My Sony cameras think it's 3500-3600k...my JVC's on the same light think 3200-3300k. Once you know the kelvin, you can set a manual kelvin for PRESET.

Paul

Paul Anderegg May 26th, 2017 06:48 AM

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Len, I like to shoot manual kelvin preset with LED's, simply because it allows me to have a consistency to add correction effects to the clips. LED's are typically either magenta or green in hue...3200k ones typically green. Whiting (push to white) off them makes everything not in their direct glare pink/purple. :-)

Paul

Len Rosenberg May 26th, 2017 01:22 PM

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Thank you Paul. Can you tell me the steps to do that? I've read the manual several times and I'm not sure what language it is written in. English words are used but I find it incomprehensible.

Len Rosenberg May 26th, 2017 02:55 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Ok, did a manual white balance of a white card. But the LCD panel colors don't match what I'm seeing. The contract is a bit low and the red level is too low. Is there a way to adjust those? Thanks.

Paul Anderegg June 15th, 2017 02:10 AM

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This is why I stick with preset kelvin for white balance...especially these days with off hue LED's. Try setting the kelvin manually, or even white balancing to a wide angle shot if the camera allows it?

Paul

Paul Kellett June 30th, 2017 04:19 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Estcourt (Post 1932055)
SanDisk 256gb cards work fine. Been using them for several months.

John have you had any problems with the 256gb sandisk ? My 4 x sandisk 128gb 90MB/s (the gold ones) have been fine, they cost about £80 but i've just found 256gb version for £100.
My thoughts are that's a lot of eggs in one basket though if the card fails ?

Thanks, Paul.

Pete Cofrancesco June 30th, 2017 12:51 PM

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If you film 4k or 60p you need a big basket for events. You also run the risk of losing card if you pull it. I once put a card in my pocket when pulled out my keys or cell it fell out. You could put it in your camera bag and someone could steal it while unattended. Point being there are many areas of risk.

Paul Kellett July 1st, 2017 02:09 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
I know all that, i just want to know if the cards 256gb work ok.

Thanks, Paul.

Len Rosenberg July 3rd, 2017 08:18 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
I'm getting significant latency in my headphone signal, sounds like it's going through a delay pedal. I have an external mic signal split in two and feeding both Ch. 1 and 2. Have done this before with my XF100 with no latency in the head phone. (The audio in the actual video is fine). Any idea what would cause this?

Thanks.

Pete Cofrancesco July 3rd, 2017 08:43 AM

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If there a large distance between the audio sources such as a concert its normal to get a delay. But I don't understand why you would want to split the signal from a mic. That doesn't make sense.

Len Rosenberg July 3rd, 2017 08:54 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Thanks Pete. This was a test in my studio. The delay happens even when I tap the mic. So this is internal to the camera, not related to distance to audio source. I split the mic into L and R, gives a bigger sound and turns a mono set up into simulated stereo.

Len

Len Rosenberg July 3rd, 2017 09:41 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Re the headphone audio delay, I found this answer posted by Barry Green at DVXuser:

"Don't think you can do anything about the video lots of processing before it is on the LCD, but on page 190 in the manual you can set the audio to be a live sound or processed in sync with the video to make it easier to monitor when recording a live event.

The LIVE option is to avoid echo in the headphones. The RECORDING option is to match the output.

There is some lag, yes. It takes a little while to route the video through all the processing and then to the outputs. If you listen to the headphones in RECORDING mode, it'll delay the headphone audio to match the video, but then you'll hear a distinct echo between the live spoken words and the headphone delayed words, which can cause a noticeable and distracting echo. So I always put the headphones in LIVE, to avoid that.

As far as delay on the LCD, it's about 3.5 frames. I set up a timecode generator on my phone, and filmed it through the UX180, and then took still frames of both the camera's LCD and the phone's display, and it showed a consistent 3 to 4 frame discrepancy between them.

3 frames is enough to notice a lip sync error, yes. So 3-4 frames, you probably would have been seeing video out of sync with the audio if you were viewing with LIVE set on the headphones. You can choose RECORDING; the only issue is whether you'll hear the echo or not. If you have headphones that do a great job at sealing out outside noise, then RECORDING may be the ideal choice in that situation."

Tom Van den Berghe December 16th, 2017 11:44 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
bump this this thread up. Users with this camcorder are still happy with their purchase?
Is it good in low light? If it's better than my sony HXR-NX3 with 3x 1/2.8-inch Exmor that would be nice.

The 1080p is sharper than my sony.(based on youtube videos I saw)

The HC-X1 needs more gain but will be cleaner and still sharper.
(based on the sony NX100 vx NX5 I read here on the forum)

I don't need 4K but I need the 20x zoom for shooting stage events.

Mike Griffiths December 17th, 2017 12:31 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Bigwood (Post 1927727)
I ordered my HC X1 today, and wondered if anyone can recommend third party batteries for it? The list price for the largest capacity battery is over £400 here in the UK, nearly a fifth of the price of the camera.

SWIT make a battery that fits the DVX200 for about £100 -would that also be suitable for the X1?


Yes they work fine, have the same indicator on the back and also a 5v outlet

Matt Bigwood December 18th, 2017 09:03 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Van den Berghe (Post 1939577)
bump this this thread up. Users with this camcorder are still happy with their purchase?
Is it good in low light? If it's better than my sony HXR-NX3 with 3x 1/2.8-inch Exmor that would be nice.

The 1080p is sharper than my sony.(based on youtube videos I saw)

The HC-X1 needs more gain but will be cleaner and still sharper.
(based on the sony NX100 vx NX5 I read here on the forum)

I don't need 4K but I need the 20x zoom for shooting stage events.

I've had mine for 10 months now, and generally pretty pleased with it. I was using a Sony EA50 before this, and the 1080 on the HC X1 is much more detailed. I find I need to put more effort in to get the best from the Panasonic.

It's not great in low light, but considering the price I paid, I can live with it, pluse the convenience of the 20x zoom and XLRs etc

Tom Van den Berghe December 19th, 2017 12:48 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Not great in low light? Strange because the videos I have seen on youtube seems very nice in low light.
I know my sony FS100 will outperform the HC-X1 in low light but it's for shooting stage shows mostly and run and gun.

Pete Cofrancesco December 19th, 2017 01:51 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Sensor size and resolution have the biggest impact on low light performance the price of the camera isn’t always relevant. The fs100 has a larger sensor and lower resolution so it’s not surprising it performs better in low light.

Mike Griffiths December 20th, 2017 12:07 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
I agree, I posted one in low light up to 12 dB, thought it was really acceptable

Paul Anderegg December 20th, 2017 12:12 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
I think a lot of people have been spoiled by seeing Red and A7sII footage in movies and online, and get this internal mechanism telling them everything should look like that. Most prosumer cameras are not really getting better in low light, maybe just cleaner at lower gain settings, but raw sensitivity and s/n ratio drop as they add more and more pixels to the little sensors.

Paul

Matt Bigwood December 20th, 2017 06:53 AM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Van den Berghe (Post 1939637)
Not great in low light? Strange because the videos I have seen on youtube seems very nice in low light.
I know my sony FS100 will outperform the HC-X1 in low light but it's for shooting stage shows mostly and run and gun.

I was comparing it to my previous Sony EA50 (APS-C sensor).

Michael Warren December 24th, 2017 10:40 PM

Re: panasonic hc-x1
 
Quote:

Users with this camcorder are still happy with their purchase?
Is it good in low light? If it's better than my sony HXR-NX3 with 3x 1/2.8-inch Exmor that would be nice.

The 1080p is sharper than my sony.(based on youtube videos I saw)
Tom, I've used a NX3 quite a bit, and the and although I haven't compared them side by side, the UX180/HC-X1 is a quite bit better in low light. The UX180 is also definitely sharper.

I got my UX180 a few weeks ago and just posted a review to my web site.

Panasonic AG-UX180 Review - mike-warren.net

Here's a test of the UX180's 30x iZoom



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