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Dennis Vogel December 15th, 2011 01:37 PM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Harper (Post 1703739)
For a beginner, if you haven't already been told, put the dial on the movie icon. Choose your record mode in the menu. Choose Manual Movie mode unless you want 24p.

To get shooting immediately, you can use the Q menu button to navigate sideways to the S -P-M-A modes, and choose program mode, (I'm not referring to the dial on top of the camera) it will allow you to set white balance, but will do the rest for you, shutter speed, aperture, etc. You can record a wedding or anything in P mode, and you'll be fine. It's not ideal to shoot in P mode, but pretty darn close, and is a good way to start out. Some people recommend starting out in M mode, or S mode, etc, but I don't agree, because you also have to learn how to handle focusing the camera on your subject, and that in itself is a whole other thing.

So by starting in the P mode, you can shoot as if you're using a video camera, and then you only have to concentrate on focusing, which is another lesson for another day.

Thanks. This is really great stuff. Far easier to grasp than the &$*@# manual.

For many years I shot full manual 35 mm stills. Then I had a few pocket, fully auto cams. Eventually I went to a tape-based DV cam. I've forgotten a lot of my old photo techniques so having this kind of hint for us GH2 newbies is really great. Next time I go out to shoot, I'll try the P mode and see how it goes.

Feel free to throw out any more tips for us newbies.

D

Roy Feldman December 15th, 2011 01:43 PM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
Actually the new Firmware is not 30p or 25p but is wrapped in a interlaced package

Jeff Hinson December 15th, 2011 03:25 PM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
Roy.............oh no.

Just when I think Im beginning to get a handle on things...here you come along. haha

I shoot an Canon XHA1 at 30 p....so I guess the closest to the Canons 30P is the G2 HBR...right?
Im trying to get as close as possible to editing both cams in CS5

I think Im gonna start a NEWBIE thread...Ive got a zillion questions and dont want to bore the pros.

Look for me......I need all the help I can get. The manual leaves me frustrated...who wrote that thing. Ha

Jeff Hinson

Andrew Rowe December 16th, 2011 07:23 AM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
I think the XHA1 only does "30F" not 30p. Canon's "30F" is none other than... 30p in a 60i wrapper, so it is hopefully identical to the GH2's HBR mode, and the two should work perfectly together on the same timeline [different codecs allowing]. In theory.

Am I right in thinking that the GH2's NTSC HBR mode is actually 29.97fps as the 60i wrapper suggests? I know the 24p mode is 23.98fps even on the PAL models - a consideration if intercutting with true 24p cameras. Why can't Panasonic call a spade a spade?

Jeff Hinson December 16th, 2011 04:50 PM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
@ Andrew...

Yes...mixed footage from both GH2 and XHA1 today on the same timeline. Works perfectly.
Im glad the firmware update gave me 30P HD...easy to work with and video looks great.

Thanks for the comment Andrew...

Jeff H.

Roy Feldman December 17th, 2011 06:01 AM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
The High bit rate is 30p or 25p wrapped in an interlaced form so that people can plug the camera directly into their panasonic TV (they do sell those) and play it.It is indeed 30p/25p but has interlaced flags attached. I am using 5dtoRGB (a free program) to conform it to a true progressive 4.2.2. file,(prores or dnxhd) works very quickly on a computer with a decent video card.Why 30p not 24p? If I end up making a DVD I think the transformation is easier getting to 60i without inserting a 3-2 pulldown.

Patrick Janka December 20th, 2011 09:00 AM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Hinson (Post 1703752)
Yes Jeff we are on the same page
The only business that pays anything for me right now are
weddings.
I need to get that going first and the P mode seems like the solution

Music videos my first love will have to wait until I master the manual mode.
Please keep me informed on your wedding set ups

Jeff, I saw you say you have an XHA1. That and the GH2 are my cameras, as well. I get a fair amount of corporate work using my XHA1. A lot of corporate shoots require tape based cameras, where they hand you the tapes before the shoot, and you hand them back at the end. A lot of shoots are done in SD, as well, which a GH2 won't do. I'm trying to steer my business into weddings, too, but as of now I make more money doing corporate and other shoots. I'm a lifelong multi-instrumentalist musician, actor, and stand-up comedian, so I have a lot of contacts in those industries which gives me a lot of work creating performance videos and demo reels. I use my XHA1 as a wide cam and the GH2 for closeups, interviews, B-roll. The footage matches up nicely with the help of color correction.

There are a lot of good companies that hire freelancers. Last night I did my second job for Become a GeoBeats Filmmaker!. They're good people, you should look into them.

As far as P mode, I don't care for it. I only shoot M, and I would highly suggest you learn it and shoot with it instead.

Jeff Harper December 20th, 2011 11:45 AM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
Hi Patrick, re: manaul mode, if you go back to Jeff H's original predicament, he had a new camera, and had no clue how to start. P mode is typically recommended for anyone new to DSLRs. Eventually we all learn how to set exposure and shutter speed, but we must remember this is a process, not an event. Learning something as complex as photographic principles such as shutter speed and exposure is much more pleasurable when taken in stages than being force fed advanced techniques.

If Jeff takes the time to visit a photography forum and ask for advice on how to begin, he'll read that the majority of veterans encourage newbies to use P mode to start out, and then encourage them to venture into other modes after they have become proficient focusing. You then typically try Aperture priority, or S mode, and as you learn the relationship between exposure and shutter speed you can branch out and do more. In the meantime, you are able to capture images from the beginning. That's what I found when I got my first DSLR several years ago.

Learning the relationship between shutter speed and exposure can take a fair amount of time, and to become proficient in manual mode under the pressure of a paid gig can take months. For shooting video you need a continuously usable image, particularly when shooting doc style. When all else fails, P mode can be used to get you though rapidly changing lighting conditions or other run and gun situations.

Stories of DSLR shooters missing shots because they were fiddling with their exposure and shutter speed are plentiful. When you are shooting a wedding it is much more important to get the shot than to be concerned with the ideal shutter speed. During a ceremony, and for static cameras during the reception there are plenty of opportunities for using manual settings, but even then you must be careful.

Jeff H wants to shoot weddings. Say he has his two GH2s and his XH-A1 and he's running his GH2s in manual mode as static cameras, and he's set up a the reception for the first dance. He's 50 feet from his GH2s and then suddenly the house lights are brought down without warning, and the couple begins their first dance. What does he do? No choice; he must abandon his main camera and go adjust his two GH2s, separately, all the while his main camera is unattended.

If he had been in P mode, he would be golden with no worries. Shutter priority is technically better, but the in camera adjustments in S mode are abrupt when the lighting changes, and it looks terrible as the exposure abruptly changes, which happens constantly as people move in and out of the frame making S mode is useless. Aperture priority is better, I suppose, but why bother? P mode solves most exposure problems, as much as can be solved on an unmanned camera.

Manual settings, as well as a camera's automated settings, all have their place.

Jeff Hinson December 20th, 2011 02:30 PM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by

There are a lot of good companies that hire freelancers. Last night I did my second job for [url=http://production.geobeats.com/filmmakers/register
Become a GeoBeats Filmmaker![/url]. They're good people, you should look into them.
.

Thanks Patrick for the tip. I "will" check into it.

Like you, my passion is Music/entertainment videos, but they don't pay the bills....at least right now.
Weddings videos in this part of the country (Rural IN) are an afterthought to most new couples. They don't mind spending a fortune on photographs, but shrug, when you quote them the video.............go figure. Guess it's up to me to change that attitude. ha.

PM me, I'd like to know what a typical assignment with GeoBeats is, and the rate they pay.

Jeff Hinson

Jerry Neal January 9th, 2012 01:13 PM

Problems downloading new firmware...
 
Hello,

I have tried several times to access Panasonic's webiste to download the new GH-2 firmware update. However, it keeps telling me that the page does not exist.

Here's the page I'm accessing and the link I'm TRYING to access:

Joint update service for Four Thirds body and lenses | Download | Digital Camera | Digital AV | Consumer Products | Support | Panasonic Global

Can someone provide me with the correct link to download the new firmware? I greatly appreciate your help!

Jeff Hinson January 9th, 2012 02:33 PM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
Jerry...it works for me.

Try this...then look for the GH2 1.1 download
Joint update service for Four Thirds body and lenses | Download | Digital Camera | Digital AV | Consumer Products | Support | Panasonic Global

jeff

Jerry Neal January 9th, 2012 04:28 PM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
Thanks for your reply... just tried again and no dice. To clarify, I'm clickin on the download under the PC category on the following page:

Update Contents for DMC-GH2

When I click "download," it tells me the page no longer exists.

Not sure what I'm missing here. I've tried this on two, different computers.

Jeff Hinson January 9th, 2012 05:19 PM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
I guess I have it somewhere on my computer...I could email it to you if I can find the download.
Maybe others have it too.
Jeff

Jeff Hinson January 9th, 2012 05:24 PM

Re: New Firmware Available!
 
GH2__V11.bin . I can email to you but can't guarantee anything.
Jeff


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