GH4 on ebay.
 

A friend sent me this link this morning.

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH4 4K Mirrorless Micro Four Thirds Digital Camera Body Only | eBay

It doesn't have the 30min recording limit.

He is interested in one too, I contacted the seller, he told me it isn't restricted to the 30mins.

Thoughts please.

Thanks in advance.

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Hi Anthony,

I have bought a couple of things from the Dutch company Photospecialist who are selling the GH4 body at an even lower price Panasonic DMC-GH4 Body
I was going to get my FZ1000 from them, but the new stock will not be in for about 3 weeks.

Roger

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Thanks Roger, wonder is it limited to the 30mins recording?

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No GH4 is restricted to a 30 minute record time in NTSC or DCI 4K mode (23.98, 24.00, 29.97, 59.97 frame rates). Only when the GH4 is set to PAL @ 50.00Hz does the recording limit engage.

Every GH4 will only record for 29:59 when it's set to PAL shooting mode.

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That's interesting Gary, are you sure about this?

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My GH4 is still being serviced but I asked a friend to try this. He switched it to NTSC, restarted it and it's still showing him 29:59 :-(

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So, in PAL mode, the GH4 in the eBay link will not record longer than 30mins, is that what your saying?

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I stand corrected. Apparently Hong Kong and Australian models don't have this limit in PAL due to a region setting that remains untouched via firmware. Curious that the U.S. versions don't get the same treatment.

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I would check very carefully on this as my understanding that any camera without a restriction on the recording time is subject to a tax levy in the UK. You may well be able to import it but you may also be stuck with an extra tax payment.

Roger

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anyone here that's stating "facts" actually own a gh4?

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Hi Darren, put the record straight :)

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Panasonic Australia say on their website that the GH4 has no recording limit ... Thought I would just confirm that since I live here!! This seems to be a UK thing??

My FZ1000's do have the 30 minute limit however so maybe the GH4 is just tough enough to record for long periods??

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It's a "EU" thing, mine also has a recording limit, sometimes I wish it would not have that but actually I never use a dslr for 30 min+ recordings and use a videocamera instead which doesn't have that limit, I also prefer to buy my camera's at a local dealer so it's easy to bring in and have issues resolved during warranty period and if necessary get a replacement camera during the repair period.

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I've been curious about the gh4 continuous recording time limitation. Even taking a PAL self imposed limitation out of it. There has to be a limitation to how much video will fit on a memory card and how long the battery will last. If the battery only lasts 30 minutes isn't a moot point the camera can record for 10 hrs.

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If there is no recordtime limitation you can record for a few hours on one battery and if you add the batterygrip you could double that, then you just need to add a card big enough to capture that data.
What kind of recording are you planning to make that takes 10 continuing hours? I would say the GH4, if you have a model without recording limit, is able to record just about any event when you include a batterygrip.

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2 hrs is a generous amount of time.

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There are a few questions you need to ask here, I see the seller offers only 1 year of warranty, where I live warranty is 2 years by law, not sure how that is for you? Also in case of a issue you get to sort it out by yourself directly at a official repaircenter where you only can hope they won't give you a hard time. The seller stays at a safe distance because he only gets involved in the selling and receiving money receiving part ,don't expect any service from them.

Second thing is that these sellers often bypass any taxes to be paid, they import directly from the country of origin and then sell excl taxes which often explains why they are so cheap, they usually have fake addresses in the countries they are trying to sell and not sure if it's a coincidence but they almost always send the good from the UK. it's illegal what they do and as a company you have no advantage buying from them because you cannot write of any taxes afterwards, if you are not a company then you can save the VAT they will not charge you.

The seller of that GH4 is Digital Camera UK and located in Manchester, you should be able to check if they have been registered as a legit company? That should clear up some doubts, that also means they have to follow the same laws when it comes to warranty in the UK.

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Thank you Noa, for that advice, really appreciate it.

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That seller also has a 100% positive feedback on ebay which is also good but fact remains that you might run into some issues if the camera malfunctions but if you really want to have a dslr with no recording limit that might be worth the risk.

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Yes Noa, he has 100% feedback.
I contacted ebay telling them that I was interested in that item but had concerns about spending that amount of money to a seller on ebay, say for instance the item arrived with me not as described in the listing.
I was told that if I went ahead and bought the item, I am covered 100% through paypal.
If the item arrived damaged, looked as if it wasn't new or even if the item did not arrive with me at all. I need not worry, because I would get a full refund.
The only concern I then had is about warranty. The seller says and I rang him, that he gives a 1 year warranty, so I didn't know what to do, plus and a big plus, I would have gotten 10% off the price of the item, ebay had 10% off code I could have used :(

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You see this unlimited recording with some GH4s, what formats allow this?

If I have AVCHD unlimited to drop into my 50i timeline like I can do with my Panasonic TM900/X900, that's good enough for me, for now.

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Anthony, you would have bought your 900 cams as video cams with the levy already paid, whereas the G4 in the EU is sold as a photographic camera so can avoid the extra levy if the video recording time is limited.

It's a very frustrating arrangement, that really should be reviewed as there seems no realistic reason for applying it apart from a small amount of extra income on top of the VAT.

Roger

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Thanks Roger,

but will the GH4 record AVCHD unlimited, so I can drop it into my 50i Edius timeline?

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My understanding is that the limitation applies to all video codecs, whether AVI, AVCHD or MPEG4 unless provision is made for importing an unlimited one and paying the appropriate levy,

Roger

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Thanks Roger.