One arm, either left or right doesn't matter. A knee cap and two toes, your choice on which toes and which knee cap. Not pricey at all.

Michael Pappas
http://www.pbase.com/ARRFILMS


<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : what is the cost of 4 1 gig cards in the p2 system? -->>>

<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : what is the cost of 4 1 gig cards in the p2 system? -->>>

There is no 1 Gig P2 card.

I think he's asking about the 4 gig P2 card.

Jan, you just got married?

<<<-- Originally posted by Simon Wyndham : Jan, you just got married? -->>>

Yes I did, but in October 2004, to the man of my dreams. We make a good pair, he is a geeky as I am, so to speak we are two geeks in a pod. ;-)

Jan Crittenden,

What is the cost for the 4 gig P2. MSRP and street or which that you know of. Thanks


<<<-- Originally posted by Jan Crittenden Livingston : <<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : what is the cost of 4 1 gig cards in the p2 system? -->>>

There is no 1 Gig P2 card. -->>>

The 2 gig P2 card was about $1700 street, and it's not even made any more. The 4 gig P2 card should now be less than what a 2 gig P2 card was a year ago. So I'm guessing under $2000 for a 4 gig card.

Hi Michael,

It is about $1700 today. It was $2,000 about 3 months ago.

Best,

Jan

So how much video can you get on a 4 gig card?

Depending on what you record. in DVCPRO25 it is roughly 18, in DVCPRO50 it is 9, in HD it is about 4.

Jan Crittenden,

What frame rate are these figures based on. Is this on 60 or 24. If it is on 60 does that mean 24P in HD will be around 8 minutes.

Michael Pappas
http://www.Pbase.com/ARRFILMS


<<<-- Originally posted by Jan Crittenden Livingston : Depending on what you record. in DVCPRO25 it is roughly 18, in DVCPRO50 it is 9, in HD it is about 4. -->>>

"If it is on 60 does that mean 24P in HD will be around 8 minutes."


Great question, and one I am dying to hear the answer to.

If that's the case, the amount stored in DVCPro50 at 24P should also increase a little bit (about 10%).

I hope this is the case.
While 1080 24P was a huge surprise, I hope to hear that the assumptions about lowered datarate at lowered framerate was true. If not, this puts a small (very small) damper on what is otherwise great news.

The 60P feature blew me away!

The camera is a Mini Showscan camera. I did research at Showscan corp back in late eighties thru the early 1990's. This camera doing 60P in HD is amazing. Just amazing. Shoot 60p at 1/125th of a second and you have a mini digital Showscan system. WoW!

That aside, this camera has a large format list. We haven't even seen the feature list yet. I'm getting hungry......................

Michael Pappas
http://www.Pbase.com/ARRFILMS

<<<-- Originally posted by Michael Pappas : Jan Crittenden,

What frame rate are these figures based on. Is this on 60 or 24. If it is on 60 does that mean 24P in HD will be around 8 minutes.

Michael Pappas
http://www.Pbase.com/ARRFILMS
-->>>

It takes 11.25 GB to record an hour of 25-Mbps video. Therefore, 4 GB should hold 21 minutes and 20 seconds. If the arithmetic holds up, DVCPro HD at 720p24 should be 5/8 of that figure, or about 13 minutes. My guess is that the actual running time will be somewhat less, but certainly should be at least 10 to 12 minutes.

In keeping with this whole "time on P2" theme, does anyone know if Firestore's upcoming HD upgrade for the FS-4 will support DVCPROHD?

I'm sure Firestore had to know this was coming, so I guess we can always hope, huh?