I read on dvxuser that any old firewire drive would work hooked up to the camera. The camera basically just writes video files to the P2 cards so it can easily write the same files to a hard drive. This means you could get a very cheap external firewire drive and shoot HD. I know this isn't very easy to haul around especially if it isn't battery powered but at least we could use HD on the camera. This should also work hooking up to a computer as well.

As for people saying Panasonic should add more to the price and include a small card. How is that different than you just buying the camera at it's current price and buying a small card at the same time? The price would be the same. You just don't get it in one nice box.

If Panasonic bundled a card, they could give it to us cheaper - maybe even at cost. Then the price wouldn't go up that much. Seeing as we may have to buy them, we need to pay retail. I think if we saw the numbers (What it cost them to make, VS what they sell for) we'd be saving a packet - this is pure speculation of course.


What I'm interested about is the rumour that Panasonic have had it working into an iPod. Now *that* is nice - something that small, attached to a camera would be perfect.

Aaron

If Panasonic allowed people to record to regular hard drives, that would be more shattering new technology then P2 is, in my opinion!

and a sure fire seller!

- Shannon W. Rawls

Jesse is correct. If you stick with the original $10,000 price (actually $9995) you get two 8-gig cards included with the camera.

If you buy just the camera itself, that's what costs $5,995.

camcorderinfo.com says that it only records 8 minutes on the miniDV tapes. Ouch.

and why is it that adam wilt's website says:

HDV records high-definition video on DV tapes:
* 720p is recorded at roughly 19 Mbit/sec while 1080i records at 25 mbit/sec.
* In 720p, the luma sampling matrix is 1280x720, square pixel, exceeding DVCPROHD's 960x720 sampling.
* In 1080i, the sampling matrix is 1440x1080, with 1.33:1 pixels; this is the same luma sampling used in HDCAM and exceeds DVCPROHD's 1280x1080 sampling.

Is recording 100MB/s on DVC Pro HD the crucial difference to give a better image ?

I'm all so confused with the scary world of HD.

That 8 minutes on a tape is just wrong. If the tape mechanism is a standard miniDV (DV25) mechanism, it will just record plain old DV25 - unless I've missed some information somewhere.

There is also the colour sampling. DVCPROHD and DVCPRO50 is 4:2:2 whereas HDV is 4:2:0 which is half the vertical colour resolution of the other.

Aaron

'wrong' being a typo, a mistake or 'wrong' as in 'why bother with tape' ??

Oops, I see there the ambiguity could come in. I'm saying "wrong" as a typo. I had a quick look through the camcorderinfo article and is this the sentence you're referring to?

If so, I think you misread. They weren't saying "you get 8 minutes of video ON a normal SD DV tape", they were saying "you get 8 minutes on p2, and a normal SD DV tape mechanism that can only record SD" as opposed to one on an HDV camera that can record HiDef.

Aaron

now I geddit. right.

I thought about getting a HD100 till the HVX200 comes out and then if I like it better, sell the HD100and get a DVX. But I'm afraid of the HD100 not holding it's re-sale price, specially after the HVX200 comes out. It's juts that I have a project to shoot now in summer and would like to shoot some flavor of HD. I guess I will just have to shoot it with my trusted AG-DVC200 :)