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Patrick Bower January 23rd, 2008 02:50 PM

Read the specifications too quick. HD is at 60 frames per second, so I guess that means 60i.

Patrick

Patrick Bower January 23rd, 2008 02:53 PM

fields not frames, doh.
Patrick

John Wyatt January 25th, 2008 05:02 AM

I used to like reading Stephen van Vuuren’s experiments shooting around 3 fps stills and using software interpolation to get back to 24 fps for experimental short films with a distinctive look. I bet he’d be interested in this camera! I wonder if the 60 frame buffer is a fixed number, or could you use a smaller frame size and accumulate more than 60 frames? Shutter life has been an issue with people using DSLRs for animation -- would this camera fail after a few weeks if you keep on shooting an astronomical number of stills?

Sean Adair January 25th, 2008 10:26 AM

thanks for the link - I love the idea of doing hi-speed recording.
BUT, I don't think it's 1080p, but 1080i (big difference in data)
720p would be more useful for most applications.
quote:
1920 × 1080 (FHD HQ/FHD Normal, 60 fields per second),
1280 × 720 (HD LP, 30 fps)

Sean Adair January 25th, 2008 10:33 AM

sorry patrick - you caught yourself while I was checking data on the site!
At high speeds I'm sure it is only using the electronic shutter, so no wear - the mechanical shutter is probably only for still frames (up to burst mode ?).
It's just frustratingly not adequate for any pro use. If it could do SD (640x480) at over 120fps, I'd start to think of applications for it, but the lo resolutions would only be useable in real projects as composited elements - which is really limiting.

The burst mode IS possible to do things with, but only a little gap between my current 720 60p HD video and 7fps DSLR. These both allow much longer recording...

Stephen van Vuuren January 26th, 2008 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Wyatt (Post 814038)
I used to like reading Stephen van Vuuren’s experiments shooting around 3 fps stills and using software interpolation to get back to 24 fps for experimental short films with a distinctive look. I bet he’d be interested in this camera! I wonder if the 60 frame buffer is a fixed number, or could you use a smaller frame size and accumulate more than 60 frames? Shutter life has been an issue with people using DSLRs for animation -- would this camera fail after a few weeks if you keep on shooting an astronomical number of stills?

John - you're exactly right! Thanks for the kind words. Another DV Info member Charles Lim also saw my posts and has done some amazing work using that technique.

I am (but it's now actually "was") interested in this camera. If you dig deeply it's simply has 60 shot buffer at 6 megapixels. You can take those 60 shots at 60 fps and that gives you one second takes. If you want a longer takes, you've only got 60 frames. So a 12 second shot gets you only 5 fps, 20 second shot, only 3fps.

So, it's of no use to me. If they have a later model that has a 200 or 300 full resolution buffer, that might interesting.

I am currently in pre-production on a 4 minute or so short that will be shot with a Pentax K10d (all I could afford) that will shoot at steady 3fps at 10 megapixel until the buffer is full. I can get 1-2 minute takes depending on memory card. Of course, D300, A700 etc shoot at near 5fps until full but simply can't afford them yet.

It's called "Last (Memories of Blue)" and will serve as a promotional/test piece for my IMAX film.

Kurth Bousman March 24th, 2008 12:22 PM

casio ex-f1
 
first look at

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/1868...1-test-photos/

Mike Dulay March 25th, 2008 03:54 PM

Nice to hear. I wonder when we'll actually see these in stores.

John C. Butler March 28th, 2008 07:36 PM

I wondered why the pictures were so ridiculously clean, then realized they were lacking strongly in real detail. Talk about NR! With the full res burst being limited to one second of shots, and the 1080 video being interlaced, I'm afraid that it just doesn't seem to be as cool as all the hype. Still really neat though, especially for the high frame rates.

Paulo Teixeira March 29th, 2008 09:54 PM

The 3rd post has a couple of samples.
http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/v...99&forum_id=14

-EDIT-
I guess you’ll have to wait if you want to download the second native file because Rapidshare has issues with one of its servers.

Paulo Teixeira March 30th, 2008 09:03 PM

Here are a couple of 300 frames per second clips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asb1kDFSu0Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lyMxymQEPk
You’ll find many other examples on YouTube.

Kurth Bousman March 31st, 2008 07:24 PM

Darn Paulo - that looks real cool to me - I think I want one/k

Robert Schiebel April 1st, 2008 06:14 AM

Hello, look at
http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=5996
there ar many RAW-Clips, Image sequences and .MOV files.

Paulo Teixeira April 2nd, 2008 11:04 PM

Robert Schiebel,
Thanks for that link.


Here is the Watch.Impress review.

Original Japanese:
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...2/zooma352.htm

English Translated:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...2fzooma352.htm

Steve Nunez September 30th, 2008 08:09 PM

The video quality at full HD is looking very impressive- anyone here using one- opinions, impressions?


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