Working with the Cineform RAW footage is completely transparent to the end user. In fact, you can mix/match in real-time Cineform RAW with the current Cineform codecs, meaning anything digitizied via HD-SDI or HDV sources. So for instance, you could do a real-time dissolve with Cineform RAW material and something from an F900, etc. As the end user the footage all acts the same way. The Cineform RAW footage though has a special control panel that allows you to modify the RAW data settings and how the RAW files are interpreted if you choose to tinker at a lower level.

Ari / Jason/ Francois,

Is it possible to get a minute of your camera footage to test it for a film transfer. I intend to shoot a feature in August and testing z1 to shoot it. But I would defenetely wait for your camera if it delivers.

"In fact, you can mix/match in real-time Cineform RAW with the current Cineform codecs, meaning anything digitizied via HD-SDI or HDV sources."

does this mean you have to convert the HD/HDV to cineform files or you could just mix captured HDV and HD ( from cinealta captured say thru decklink HD uncompressed) ?

i know non raw cineform clips will play in other apps - but i'm not clear if cineform RAW will play in those other apps ...IE: 10bit 1920x1080 24p cineform clips will playback in Vegas and other apps at 8bit if you have the cineform codec (free reader) installed ... or is RAW cineform clips confined to PP and AE for the moment?

Once we get quicktime, you'll be able to take the Cineform RAW files anywhere. The current AVI files are limited to Prospect HD, which means After Effects and Premiere Pro only.

When I was saying HDV/HD-SDI sources, I was talking about footage digitized through AspectHD/ProsepectHD/PremierePro.

So for instance, HD-SDI footage shot by someone and digitized into a Prospect HD suite will work in realtime with Cineform RAW data.

Aspect HD footage (via HDV stuff) will mix and match nicely with Cineform RAW footage.

Of course you need Prospect HD to edit Cineform RAW, but the point is that with Cineform RAW you have a very nice workflow that can work with other sources of media, so you're not just locked to one codec, having to render from Cineform RAW into another codec just to edit in real-time with other sources. You can mix/match sources in real-time on the same timeline.

This is a little off the topic but what the heck. What's the future possibilities of a Final Cut Studio workflow running through an apple system?

Final Cut Integration
 

We have currently porting the CineForm codec to Quicktime for Mac and PC operations. Initialially the codec will be optimized for the Intel Mac (CineForm component are already heavy optimized for Intel parts) have G5 binaries should be made available for compatibility with old Macs. The camera files can be transfer via EtherNet or the drive directly mounted via USB2. These files will playback within any QuickTime application. The CineForm RAW MOV files will operate within Final Cut Pro just like any other third party codec. You can use you compete your post/color work just the same as if you where using BitJazz or another codec. The workflow is going to be pretty seemless. There are some new features for FCP, such as post-manipulation of the color matrices for the decoded data -- integration into FCP has yet to be determined.
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So Vegas is a no go? Can I ask why? And any future plans to make this happen?

I'd have a hard time leaving the bright lights of Vegas...

I think the Quicktime's will work fine in Vegas . . . the AVI's right now don't because you need Prospect HD which only works in the Adobe apps.

Sadly at this stage Vegas has no support for a 10 bit pipeline, that has many impacts and the SI camera is not the least of them.

Oh . . . that's a biggie . . . no 10-bit support??

Well then, I'm sorry, without that, you're not going to be able to take advantage of the camera's capabilties.

10-bit or deep pixel support is a must-have item . . .

I've been missing this thread. Hi guys. Yes, RAW processing really requires a deeper pixel format as the the dynamic range is much higher. It is simply not possible to squeeze the dynamic from the SI camera into an 8-bit colorsapce without introducing color banding. If or when Vegas support 10-bits+ we will make the upgrades so thay CineForm RAW can be used within Vegas. Contact Sony now. :)

Well if Sony want to keep my business, they'd better update soon!

Thanks gents, very informative.

leaning towards the SI but...
 

Ari, I've tried to view the footage but something's not happening with my Mac and WindowsMedia player. What can it be? I desperately wanna see running footage of the SI.

MAC Player for WMV
 

Only option is: http://www.flip4mac.com/

but it does not decode as well as Microsoft Media Player 10 on PC.