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Cliff Totten June 15th, 2015 03:10 PM

4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Just a quick FYI...

B&H now has the X70 4k upgrade available for pre-order.

I got mine in...

Dave Dyar June 15th, 2015 04:23 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
There is also a link on that order page with some cryptic information about a mail-in rebate for the 4k upgrade for people who bought an X70 before March 30.

Ray Paula June 16th, 2015 06:44 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Hi, Could you please post a link for the pre-order? I can't find it at B&H.....Thanks, Ray

Craig Seeman June 16th, 2015 06:54 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Scroll down right side of page along he recommended accessories.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1072752-REG/sony_pxw_x70_professional_xdcam_compact.html

Paul Hardy June 16th, 2015 08:33 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Just thought I'd chime in with the usual UK pricing moan.........

Come on Sony UK - stop the price gouging $499 = £320 + VAT = £384 NOT the £499 you're charging us!!!! - f'ing rip off

/end rant

Paul Anderegg June 16th, 2015 02:56 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
End user pricing after rebate will be $200 USD. Not bad, I think I will preorder just to keep my X70 from depreciating in value.

I won't be able to shoot in 4K though. My FCP X install won't let me export frame-rates (24/25/30) that don't match the project timeline frame-rate, which for me is ALWAYS 60p! Everything exports as still frames.

Paul

Paul Hardy June 17th, 2015 12:26 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Hardy (Post 1889609)
Just thought I'd chime in with the usual UK pricing moan.........

Come on Sony UK - stop the price gouging $499 = £320 + VAT = £384 NOT the £499 you're charging us!!!!

/end rant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Anderegg (Post 1889655)
End user pricing after rebate will be $200 USD.
Paul

Now I've gone from being resigned to the high UK pricing to being absolutely furious with Sony UK!

Mike Griffiths June 17th, 2015 11:23 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
It's apparently 60,000 yen on the Japan website ,about £307 at current exchange rates. I live in Thailand ,so Sony Asia who say they will release it Monday 22nd. Don't know the price yet. Why not try another Sony site?

Andy Wason June 18th, 2015 08:46 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Here's a link to the rebate page. Continental US and hawaii only :-(
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/FrameWor...Y10_061515.pdf

Paul Hardy June 18th, 2015 09:15 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Ok it's not so bad - Visual Impact in the UK Here have it listed for a tad under £300 +VAT

I've calmed down a little now!

Ricky Sharp June 18th, 2015 10:16 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Wason (Post 1889855)
Here's a link to the rebate page. Continental US and hawaii only :-(
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/FrameWor...Y10_061515.pdf

Alaska is included. A quote from the rebate PDF:

"Offer valid only in the continental United States Hawaii and Alaska; excluding territories."


I'm assuming this is because B&H is located in the US. I believe Sony Authorized Dealers in other countries would have their own rebate programs.

Eric Deyerler June 18th, 2015 04:37 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
the last days I got Mails from German-reseller and UK from Sony, no rebate in Europe, so I and many other say, Sony should get his Software and we need no 4k! Because customer get more for free.

Mike McKay June 18th, 2015 08:54 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
I bought from Amazon in the US, better be able to get the rebate. Be nice if it was more clear who/how eligible etc.

Mike Griffiths June 19th, 2015 03:19 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
For those of you living in expensive Singapore, Expandore is offering it for 580 USD plus tax with a lead time of 4-6 weeks!

Ray Paula June 21st, 2015 06:33 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
I still don't see where the upgrade can be bought along with the rebate. Checked in the accessories area of the B&H link provided as well.......nothing. Ray

Paul Anderegg June 21st, 2015 11:58 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1158444-REG/sony_cbkz_x70fx_4k_upgrade_license.html

Dave Contreras June 21st, 2015 12:17 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
I just purchased mine. I'm assuming the update will come on a SD card?

Mark Goodsell June 21st, 2015 03:52 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
According to the rebate it says this:
End user purchasers of PXW-X70 who took delivery of their product on or before March 31,
2015 and who purchase a CBKZ-X70FX 4K license key during the promotion period from a Sony
Authorized Reseller, Reseller of a Sony Authorized Distributor or Direct from Sony can receive
a mail-in cash rebate. Eligible product must be ordered by and shipped to the end user within
the promotion period in order to qualify for this rebate.


What about owners (like me) who took delivery of their X70 after March 31st? Could it be, that March 31 was when they lowered the camera price? I'm wondering what is so unique about the 31st? Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Ricky Sharp June 21st, 2015 04:45 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Goodsell (Post 1890195)
What about owners (like me) who took delivery of their X70 after March 31st? Could it be, that March 31 was when they lowered the camera price? I'm wondering what is so unique about the 31st? Any thoughts?

According to Jim Stamos in this thread...

x70 price drop/new cam coming

Sony's fiscal year ends March 31st. And the lower price started as early as April 2nd (I don't know first-hand if it started on the first, but I would assume so).

Greg Clark June 21st, 2015 05:39 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Same old problem that makes this camera useless. Only 12 times optical zoom.

Ray Paula June 22nd, 2015 05:43 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Thanks for the link Paul...... I'm fortunate enough to have purchased the camcorder well before March 31'st. I definately feel that "ALL" PXW-X70 owners should be offered this rebate. In my opinion, bad business. Thanks again, Ray

Stephen Robinson June 22nd, 2015 06:55 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Clark (Post 1890202)
Same old problem that makes this camera useless. Only 12 times optical zoom.

Not really. The clear image zoom is pretty darn good. In fact, I doubt you could tell where the optical ends and the clear image begins. Now, I understand that when you are using 4K, you will lose some of that clear image zoom. I believe it changes to 18X, but most of what I will be doing w. 4K is down converting to 1080 anyway, so I can crop in anyways.

Stephen Robinson June 22nd, 2015 06:56 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Paula (Post 1890245)
Thanks for the link Paul...... I'm fortunate enough to have purchased the camcorder well before March 31'st. I definately feel that "ALL" PXW-X70 owners should be offered this rebate. In my opinion, bad business. Thanks again, Ray

I don't think so. Doing the way they are doing it, ensure the customer who paid a premium for purchasing the camera early is not punished for doing so. This way, we all pay the same price for the camera and upgrade. It's equally fair for everyone, and doesn't screw the early adopters.

Paul Anderegg June 22nd, 2015 05:59 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
It's fair, Sony is offering a rebate for all the stress and heart problems they caused for the wait for XAVC L ingest capability......punitive damages of sorts. :)

Paul

Dave Dyar June 23rd, 2015 05:25 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Contreras (Post 1890179)
I just purchased mine. I'm assuming the update will come on a SD card?

You download the 2.0 firmware and install it, which is free and available now. The 4k upgrade is shipped as a piece of paper with just a key number that you use to unlock the 4k inside the 2.0 firmware, as I understand it. B&H says it is supposed to be shipping the key numbers out today.

Dave Contreras June 23rd, 2015 10:26 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Dyar (Post 1890332)
You download the 2.0 firmware and install it, which is free and available now. The 4k upgrade is shipped as a piece of paper with just a key number that you use to unlock the 4k inside the 2.0 firmware, as I understand it. B&H says it is supposed to be shipping the key numbers out today.

Ugh.. why can't they just email that to me?

Dave Dyar June 23rd, 2015 10:27 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
B&H today removed the notice on its order page for the 4k upgrade that said expected shipping time would begin today. It now just says "Coming Soon. Shipping time unavailable."

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1158444-REG/sony_cbkz_x70fx_4k_upgrade_license.html

Cliff Totten June 23rd, 2015 06:35 PM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
I got an email from B&H saying that the upgrade is now expected to ship now on July 3rd.

Damn...gotta wait some more.

Andy Wason June 24th, 2015 07:53 AM

Re: 4k Upgrade now ready for pre order
 
Vistek in Canada apparently has it in stock. No rebate and 700 beaverbucks. Free shipping though!

https://www.vistek.ca/store/VideoCam...Resources.aspx


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