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Paul Gale February 22nd, 2008 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Quinn (Post 830548)
Ivan I got your file thanks a lot worked well I am now updating to versIon 1.93/AT-1.60 following Andy Mees Instruction I am having a problem no 14 -15

Select the “OTHERS” menu.15. Use the rotary encoder to scroll to the bottom of this menu (the asterisk should be
next to Memory Support).


When I get to Memory support the asterisk is at UPLOAD TO EEPROM not Maintenance Hours as in the instructions can anyone advise me as I am no expert on this
Thomas

Did you do a reset first?

Thomas Quinn February 22nd, 2008 04:40 AM

Paul If you mean a Country reset PAL or NTSC yes or is there something else that needs reset please let me know I have followed the instructions to a tee as they were given
Thomas

Paul Gale February 22nd, 2008 04:57 AM

Yes that's what I meant - the instructions do mention one of the menus only being available one time (until the procedure is completed) but I think that was the next level down. Probably best to talk to Sony Support next.

Is the new firmware showing correctly at the new versions?

Thomas Quinn February 22nd, 2008 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Gale (Post 830749)
Yes that's what I meant - the instructions do mention one of the menus only being available one time (until the procedure is completed) but I think that was the next level down. Probably best to talk to Sony Support next.

Is the new firmware showing correctly at the new versions?

yes 1.60 and 1.93 showing in rom version

Ray Ellis February 22nd, 2008 03:12 PM

I just performed two upgrades on my 350 (I was one behind) and everything went well. I did decide to skip the Fresh 1.06 upgrade that was bundled with the AT1.54 and Package 1.62 upgrade, because I was hesitant to open up the camera. Can someone shed light on what the "Fresh" upgrade is and if I might run into problems because I didn't install it?

Thanks.

Godfrey Kirby February 23rd, 2008 11:17 AM

My firmware on my 350 reads AT.1.51 & Pkg.1.62 - can I download the latest 1.60 & 1.93 with out any intermediate steps? Many thanks for advice.....

Greg Boston February 23rd, 2008 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Ellis (Post 831022)
I just performed two upgrades on my 350 (I was one behind) and everything went well. I did decide to skip the Fresh 1.06 upgrade that was bundled with the AT1.54 and Package 1.62 upgrade, because I was hesitant to open up the camera. Can someone shed light on what the "Fresh" upgrade is and if I might run into problems because I didn't install it?

Thanks.

You can access the service mode using the method shown in the install instructions for this firmware release.

Quote:

Go to menu D00 “Diagnostics”.
Press the rotary encoder button while depressing the Zebra button to have the
Zebra light lit and then turn the menu OFF and back ON (maybe several times)
until the Service menu appears.
-gb-

Peter Newsom February 23rd, 2008 02:23 PM

Help, having trouble with my firmware upgrade!
 
I am trying to upgrade my firmware, and my camera seems stuck while updating the AT portion.
The screen just says:

<FIRMWARE UPDATE>
COMPLETTED
ERASING 100%
PROGRAMING !00%

And the red warning light is flashing. It has been an hour since I began the process.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks, Peter

Phil Bloom February 23rd, 2008 02:24 PM

its done. turn it in and off

Greg Boston February 23rd, 2008 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Newsom (Post 831548)
I am trying to upgrade my firmware, and my camera seems stuck while updating the AT portion.
The screen just says:

<FIRMWARE UPDATE>
COMPLETTED
ERASING 100%
PROGRAMING !00%

And the red warning light is flashing. It has been an hour since I began the process.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks, Peter

You were done when the 'completed' message appeared. The key word in these firmware updates is to wait for the completed word to appear.

-gb-

Phil Bloom February 23rd, 2008 02:27 PM

greg, 5001 posts. that's just past a milestone!

Greg Boston February 23rd, 2008 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom (Post 831554)
greg, 5001 posts. that's just past a milestone!

Yeah, I remember looking awhile back and that I was getting close. My only hope is that the majority of them helped someone in some way.

-gb-

Peter Newsom February 23rd, 2008 02:36 PM

Thanks guys, had a nasty scare there. So do I just go ahead and do the package update the same way?
Peter

Phil Bloom February 23rd, 2008 02:36 PM

at least 6 of them am sure :-)

Greg Boston February 23rd, 2008 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Newsom (Post 831563)
Thanks guys, had a nasty scare there. So do I just go ahead and do the package update the same way?
Peter

Yes, and be sure to cycle power to the camera between each part. The camera will often have lights flashing at the end. Ignore them.

-gb-

Greg Boston February 23rd, 2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom (Post 831564)
at least 6 of them am sure :-)

Haha, real funny. Okay wiseguy, you get to pick which six they were. :-)

-gb-

Peter Newsom February 23rd, 2008 07:18 PM

Well I completed the upgrade, and the rest of the process went smoothly. Thanks Greg!

The improvements to the camera are very noticeable.

First and foremost the improved highlight handling is just great. Before I had to really watch for flesh tones blowing out, but now it seems that I can go way past the 70 units with out a problem.

With the noise reduction on the blacks seem to get crushed slightly, but not in a bad way. Now 9db gain is completely viable, and I have set my gain settings to 0, 6, and 9. I plan to run with setting NR no. 1 and see how thing look in daily use.

Bottom line is, I think that Sony have really improved the camera again!

Peter

Tony Partamian February 25th, 2008 03:55 AM

Upgrade without special jig?
 
As i understood...some users upgraded from the older AT = 1.50/1.56 to the newer 1.60/1.93 without going to sony support and using the special jig required in the intermediate 1.54/1.62 upgrade procedure...

Is that really safe without the fresh 1.06?
What do we miss if we don't do that?
...i read that it's only for >128MB MS support....

Peter Newsom February 25th, 2008 05:13 PM

Just got back from shooting NHL hockey news this morning with the new firmware update.
I shot Noise Reduction #1,35mbs HD HQ 60I, with the Standard look from the file menu. I added +20 low key sat., and +15 detail. I fed in both SD and HDSDI, though I didn't get to see the footage on a big HD monitor. Every thing looked good.

Some observations.

The picture looks much better overall, almost a creamy look, with a considerable reduction in grain.

My viewfinder seems better, a bit sharper and more clear. I liked it better. The LCD looked better as well.

White balance numbers were lower, with my sungun reading about 3000K under flourescents, whereas it used to be about 3200 or 3300K.

The arena bowl lighting looked much better, with nicer flesh tones, especially under preset 3200K. I used to need a higher number and preset was out of the question as flesh tones would get a sort of brownish grey tinge to them.

I could swear that the camera used up my battery faster, more than just a little.

All in all the camera took a big step ahead.

Peter

Thierry Humeau March 4th, 2008 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schemitsch (Post 829084)
snip.....

and, wtf is that "ana v out safe"?? analog video out safe. like a "broadcast colors only"??

Robert,

To reduce power comsumption, the F350/355 and F330/335 have an automated "power save" feature on the analog video out circuitry that will shut it off if no device is detected on the line. There is a tendency for this feature to kick in prematurely when feeding video through long or poorly terminated video lines with the risk of completely loosing the camera signal. When the "ana v out safe" is set to OFF, the composite video output circuitry is always active. Setting "ana v out safe" to OFF will increase the power draw a bit but the camera composite output will be reliable.

Thierry.

Greg Boston March 4th, 2008 08:05 AM

In addition to Thierry's explanation, it should be noted that this feature defaults to OFF in the camera menu. So, if you're looking for something causing extra battery drain, don't look there unless you have previously turned this feature ON.

-gb-

Eelco Romeijn March 6th, 2008 02:06 PM

Hello everyone,

Today i noticed a strange thing wich i think appeared after the update.
The LCD screen looks more clear as Peter already noticed, but it's much more cropped at the bottom of the image. Lowest menu lines drop a little off the screen. It's only on the LCD, not in the VF. Can't find a menu for adjusting the LCD screensize.

Has anybody here the same issue? Please have a look.

The rest of the update works great.

Eelco.

Uli Mors March 7th, 2008 02:06 AM

no - cannot confirm.

after fw upgrade, LCD doesnt crop more or less...

?

KR

ULI

Kalunga Lima March 7th, 2008 04:11 AM

This may seem like a dumb question, but how can you tell what firmware is presently installed in your camera?
tanx

Greg Boston March 7th, 2008 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalunga Lima (Post 838676)
This may seem like a dumb question, but how can you tell what firmware is presently installed in your camera?
tanx

Go to the Diagnostic Menu Page that shows ROM version.

-gb-

Greg Boston March 7th, 2008 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Boston (Post 837132)
In addition to Thierry's explanation, it should be noted that this feature defaults to OFF in the camera menu. So, if you're looking for something causing extra battery drain, don't look there unless you have previously turned this feature ON.

-gb-

I have to amend this to switch the OFF and ON nomenclature. The function is Analog Video Save (as in power save) and defaults to ON as it's a battery save feature.

-gb-

Chris Rowe March 7th, 2008 11:39 AM

Firmware applies to F-335 as well?
 
Hi Greg,
Does this new firmware apply to all of the XDCAM HD Cameras? This group is so f-350 heavy that we seldom hear about the other cameras. I have firmware package 1.76 on an F-335 and was wondering if I should install this new firmware and if I would receive any enhancements to the camera.

Best regards,
Chris

Kalunga Lima March 9th, 2008 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Partamian (Post 832429)
As i understood...some users upgraded from the older AT = 1.50/1.56 to the newer 1.60/1.93 without going to sony support and using the special jig required in the intermediate 1.54/1.62 upgrade procedure...

Can anyone confirm this?
thanks

Eelco Romeijn March 9th, 2008 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalunga Lima (Post 839490)
Can anyone confirm this?
thanks

I personally wouldn't take that risk. You might cause yourself a lot of trouble when it doesn't work and your cam has to be repaired.

Dimitri Liaos March 12th, 2008 05:53 PM

When I did the upgrade before this one (at a Sony Service) they gave me a PDF file that was the revised version of the F350 manual. Does anybody know if there exists a new version of the manual reflecting the latest firmware upgrade?

Mitchell Skurnik March 12th, 2008 07:30 PM

There might be something at ftp://storage@ftp.sony.com/XDCAM%20-%20Optical%20Disc/


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