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Matt Davis December 29th, 2009 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc De Wandel (Post 1465610)
What am I missing?

Two different cameras: PDW-F350 is optical disk, PMW-350 is solid state SxS. Tip o' the hat to Sony's naming department - 'thanks guys'.

Alister Chapman December 29th, 2009 10:32 AM

I don't understand Sony sometimes. Two cameras launched at a similar price point to the same market with such similar names. PMW-350 and PDW-F350, it's hardly surprising there is so much confusion.

Tom Roper December 29th, 2009 10:43 AM

Sony is just being careful to use up all the old numbers, not be caught without enough new ones. :)

Matt Davis December 29th, 2009 11:05 AM

Well, even if they adopted a Dewey Decimal System, or a BMWesque sort of moniker, at least it could have been the 370 series, or the 330. I really can't work out why it isn't an EX-7.

Mike Marriage December 29th, 2009 11:57 AM

Does anyone know if the PMW 350 viewfinder underscans?

Paul Cronin December 29th, 2009 12:08 PM

Not sure Mike but I will know tomorrow when mine arrives. I am sure Alister knows and might even have it is his review.

Alister Chapman December 29th, 2009 02:12 PM

Yes and No, the 350 VF underscans in the same way that the EX3 VF underscans. So while it shows much more in the VF than you should see on a normal TV there are a few pixels at the edges that are not visible.

Dave McCallister December 29th, 2009 03:50 PM

A question for Alistair
 
Please tell me if the PMW350 stock lens has the jerky slow zoom issues common to the EX1 and EX3. Would I have to buy a proper lens to get smooth, feathered stops and starts? Many thanks for any reply.

Thierry Humeau December 29th, 2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Daviss (Post 1465719)
Well, even if they adopted a Dewey Decimal System, or a BMWesque sort of moniker, at least it could have been the 370 series, or the 330. I really can't work out why it isn't an EX-7.

BMW actually did a similarely odd thing by naming their new 650GS bike the F650GS and that new bike actually has a 800 engine... In regard to the PMW350, yes. There is going to be a lots of confusion on the consumers and crew bookers side. PMW-EX5 or PDW-F400 would have been a much more logical choice.

Paul Cronin December 29th, 2009 04:11 PM

Dave I think the answer is yes you will have to also buy a nice 2/3" HD lens for the 350. There have not been too many who have tested the stock lens. I will be doing that tomorrow on my camera but I have received word that it has the same jerky slow zoom issues. I will confirm this tomorrow.

But it is to be expected with a $2000 HD lens. Nice glass be it wide or long with a Nano hooked up will make this camera shine.

Doug Jensen December 29th, 2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Daviss (Post 1465719)
I really can't work out why it isn't an EX-7.

It's a shoulder mount, so therefore it needed three numerals.

I don't see why it wasn't called the PMW-400, but I think the Japanese have some kind of superstition about certain numbers.

Mike Marriage December 30th, 2009 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Cronin (Post 1465866)
But it is to be expected with a $2000 HD lens.

What? I expect a professional lens to work! The jerky zoom is a major issue on the EX3 - smooth zooms are essential for almost all documentary work.

I can accept that a $2,000 lens may not look as good as a $20,000 lens but it is pretty basic to make it zoom smoothly. I've never seen the issue on any lens/camera besides the EX1/3 and really cheap consumer grade kit. It is totally unacceptable on a camera/lens at this level.

Paul Cronin December 30th, 2009 06:41 AM

Mike Sony has a options for you buy the camera with out a lens and buy a 2/3" lens of your choice. Also don't jump to conclusions until the new 350 lens is fully tested. I am only trying to give you information here.

Mike Marriage December 30th, 2009 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Cronin (Post 1466055)
Mike Sony has a options for you buy the camera with out a lens and buy a 2/3" lens of your choice. Also don't jump to conclusions until the new 350 lens is fully tested. I am only trying to give you information here.

Sorry, probably my irritation bubbling over from finding this fault in the EX3. I really hope they have sorted it for the PMW350 as initial reports suggest the lens is optically surprisingly good it would be a real shame if it was let down but a jerky zoom.

Paul Cronin December 30th, 2009 07:29 AM

No worry Mike,

Currently I am charging the batteries for my PMW-350 since it arrived. I will let you know my thoughts on the stock lens soon.


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