Video light does not work on 'auto'
 

On the PDW-F350, an attached video light, powered from the camera's powertap contact, and with the 'light' switch set to 'auto', should light up automatically as soon as recording starts. This does not happen. When I measure the output power at the power tap contact, the multimeter indicates 12.03 Volts, so that's perfect. But when I plug in the videolight , nothing happens. Plugged straight into the battery, the light works fine... very puzzling.

I've searched in the manual again and again and I don't find any explanation other than how to connect the light. Is there perhaps some hidden menu where something has to be set that I don't know of? Or anything else that I've missed?

it works fine here with a connected anton bauer ultralight, I don't see anything related in the menu

does the light work with the auto switch in off position?

is the switch on the light itself set to on?

In the DSR series of cameras there is nothing in the menu to change, it's all in the switch.

Nope, the light only works when I plug it straight into the battery. It doesn't work from the camera's powertap outlet, no matter if the switch is on 'manual' or 'auto'. The strangest thing though is that I measure 12.03 volts there.

Two possibilities: is the camera actually providing power to the light? Is it the same connector that goes to cam and battery? Or is there an adapter that could be failing to pass power?

Is your light drawing more power than the cam can deliver? (Causing a circuit breaker to shut down.)

Yep, light switch is on and the light works fine when powered straight from the battery. The camera Powerplug outlet does deliver 12 volts, though.

I measure a very stable - so probably stabilised -12.03 Volts at the outlet plug of the powertap on the camera, so it's delivering the normal voltage. But when I plug the lamp in the same powertap-outlet, it doens't work. Nor in 'auto' or in 'manual'. But when I plug in the lamp straight into the powertap of the V-lock battery...it works fine.

So there are 2 possibilities: or the lamp needs more than 12 volts, which wuold surprise me, or the drawn current is too high and there's some protection circuit in the camera that limits the current.

Third possibily: I'm using a Bebop Light with a delay-cicuit in the plug. Could this circuitry be causing the trouble? I have no other light to do the comparison.

hmm, could be. I have only used Anton Bauer lights on my fullsized cams and when I plugged into the power tap on the cam and set the switch it always worked.

Is there a switch on the battery mounting plate? I had a switch on the AB plate but honestly I can't remember if I ever had to flip it on or off to make the powertap on the camera work.

You need to measure the current inline to the light, to see if it is accepting current. Also maybe try to use the meter to capture-and-hold the peak current in the event circuit breaker protection is at play. If it's neither of the above, it would sound like a possible open ground at the connector. A high impedance digital meter (which I assume) can accurately measure the voltage on the hot leg to a poor ground that can't deliver the current to sustain that voltage under an actual load. (You already knew all that.)

No, no switch on the battery plate. Do the Anton Bauer lights have a delay-circuit that prevents a sudden current surge to the bulb? The Bebop lamp does have that, and I'm suspecting this circuitry to block the current, because the F350 is apparently already stabilising the current that comes out of the D-rap plug. Just a guess though.

Did you say what brand your light is?
Does it happen to be a Frezzi?
I have a Frezzi that won't light sometimes and I can only get it to kick on by repidly flipping the toggle switch on the light back and forth. After 4-5 kickstarts it will usually fire up.

No I certainly didn't know all that; I'm just a simple still photographer, not a qualified electrician :-)
I'll try to do some more measurements with my (very basic) Fluke and the aid of some mini crocodile clamps tomorrow. Thanks for the advice!

Hi Doug,
yeah, I mentioned it is a Bebop. Not the most expensive or sophisticated kind of lamp, but for my purposes and on the HVR-S270 it was sufficient and it worked flawlessly. I just gave it the kickstart treatment and that didn't help either.

I tried it again on the S270 and there it works perfectly, even if I measure only 11.7 Volts at the D-tap output there. The F250 delivers slightly more than 12 volts an nothing happens. But I'll try to carry out the measurements that Tom suggested and see what happens.

yeah, depending on the AB plate it might not have the switch so that's obviously not it.

It could very well be something in the camera maybe a menu setting, I don't really know but if it works on the 270 then I doubt it's the light and no, the AB doesn't have a delay circuit that I'm aware of.

Then I'm suspecting the delay-circuitry in the plug. I'll try to find another brand of lamp somewhere to test if that suspicion is correct.

I'm late to this thread, but I know what the problem is. You can't use that light with the delay circuit. I have the AB Ultra light with the UL dimmer. Can't run the dimmer through the camera body tap, have to use the tap on the battery plate. The Ultralight by itself will run just fine.

It's not a voltage issue, it's a current issue. Not an excess of current, but a lack of it that gets drawn when you plug in an electronic dimmer or delay. The camera is designed this way and I know of no workaround other than the one you have already implemented. I have to do the same thing with my UL dimmer.

-gb-

Thanks Greg; very useful comment. I've been measuring a lot and to no avail. But this is the answer, so I can stop measuring and just forget abut this light. I'll use my Sony LED-light instead.

Re: Video light does not work on 'auto'
 

I also have a PDW-F350 ; I'm pretty sure ( haven't checked ) that there is a 50W limit on the output from the camera . I use a PAGlight which has a 35W bulb and it works fine . There is a limit to what you can run through the camera .

Re: Video light does not work on 'auto'
 

Ha, ha. Do you realize you are replying to a 13 year old thread? By now everyone has switched to LED. Personally, I use a Litepanels Bi-color brick that uses only 13W to match the output of a 100W tungsten. Plus it is dimmable, so I rarely am running it at the full 13W.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...led.html/specs

Re: Video light does not work on 'auto'
 

Yes I did , but always useful , even on old threads , to post anything that might help others .

Yes I also have some LED lighting , but on this camera I still have my various PAG lights , which include various wattages of tungsten , the PowerArc lamps , which also draw around 35W but are equivalent to 100W tungsten , and the LED module , all of which can interchange into the same basic lamp .