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Edius supports native handling of MXF files but i don't know / have no experience about your specific export requirements.
FCP has no generic MXF support. But you can try using something like Sony's XDCAM Transfer plugin. With that you can export a clip to a DV or IMX MXF file with 4 channels of discreet audio |
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VEGAS: Editing SD <-> HD MXF Workflow
Hi,
for different reasons it turns out that I want to shoot in HD but edit in SD. Of course I want to use the final EDL for a HD Master as well. At the moment, everybody is saying: "Work the other way around: Edit in HD and render your master to SD for DVD or SD Playout". But thats exactly the way I DONT WANT to go. I have complete SD Setup including Vegas, not using a dualcore (yet), so why should I suffer under bad (MPG HD) performance when I aim at SD Playout in the first step anyway? However, shooting SD is not the alternative, so I developed a workflow to shoot in HD and edit in SD.: THE MOST SIMPLE way would be to import (FAM) all your files to a Vegas Timeline, render a huge SD AVI (DV) file and start editing - this way you loose any connection between the SD file and the MXF HD files. A second way could be to use the DV OUT method on the cam itself, but here you´ll have no physical relation between the HD and SD files. Both methods are unsufficient since you have to do all your editing in HD again... What I aimed for was a second Clip folder with identically named SD files. If realized, you could close Vegas, rename the folder and force Vegas ("where are the files?" to look into the other folder, importing HD instead SD (or vice versa). This was necessary to achieve it: - batch render to MXF SD or AVI SD - with same length of clips - finding a way to keep the original names of clips I started experimenting. The most difficult thing was to maintain the names of the clips. Here is a solution: There is a Script called "VEGAS LITTLE HELPER TOOL" (VLHT) offering batch rendering, film look, region/marker definitions etc. etc. I found 2 functions that helped me with my project: a) Generating regions over clips & rename regions to clip name b) batch rendering regions using the region name for the rendered clip Guess what? Import all your HD MXF files to a vegas timeline and run script a): Now you´ll find every clip with its own region , named after the clip (typicalley 0001_E002.mxf whatever) Now run b) and render to any format you like using "batch rendering using regions & region names". After rendering you will find a folder with all clips (0001_E002.XYZ) in your desired format. For perfekt editing in Vegas the ideal SD format is (DV:) SD AVI (widescreen). So when batch rendering simply choose this format. The last difference between our HD and SD files is the extention. The XDCAM HD files have ".mxf" , our AVI files ".avi". If you try to rename the folder and Vegas asks for the folder of your clips, pointing to the other "twin" is difficult since Vegas differentiates between these two extentions and will ask you for each clip to point at seperately - thats too much work... MXF is a container format, able to carry different formats inside. I simply tried to rename an AVI file into MXF and look what Vegas does with it. GREAT!: Vegas uses the renamed files exactly the way like an AVI. I used this method for one week now , believe me: There was not ONE situation where I found a different behaviour between .AVI and the renamed .mxf file - Vegas knows that there is an AVI behind and simply uses it. Here is the last step: Use any renaming tool to change all .AVI to .MXF - be sure to have the folder properly named (SD) to avoid confusions. ____HERE IS THE SHORT VERSION of the workflow:______ - import all (FAM) MXF HD files to a folder called "HD Clips" (or whatever) (you can also use lowres proxies to start sorting and import the necessary clips in a 2nd step) - bring all necessary clips into a Vegas timeline (be sure that all clips have different names!) - use VEGAS LITTLE HELPER TOOL for: a) creating regions with clip names (takes 5 seconds) - use VEGAS LITTLE HELPER TOOL for: b) batchrendering regions to SD AVI (DV AVI widescreen) using the region names for the rendered clips. Use a folder called "SD Clips" (takes a while depending on the power of your computer and the number of clips) - rename all ".avi" to ".mxf" (takes 5 seconds) Start editing a project using your "SD CLIPS" folder - taking advantage of the fluid workflow of avi editing in Vegas , its fast & reliable. If your done or you want to see your project in HD, simply save and exit Vegas , rename your "SD CLIP" folder to anything else and re-open the project. When it comes to the question "where are the clips?" simple point to the "HD CLIPS" folder - Vegas will open the "same files" without "knowing" that they changed from SD to HD. When you change your project settings to HD you are done and can see the same timeline playing in HD. Going back to SD? Simple, just rename the HD CLIP folder again and force Vegas to ask where the clips are (dont forget to set the properties back). PROs & CONs: PRO: + render time (to SD) is moved to the BEGINNING of the project instead of waiting for a slow rendering in the end if your work + editing in SD is fast & reliable + any SD preview hardware can be used (DV out-> DA -> Monitor) + SD Projects are realized with faster render times when finished + preview render is fast CONTRA: - you need twice the space on your HD (though HD clips could be re-imported later) - some resolutions formats must be manually changed (generated media, like text gerenators etc.) or manually set to 1440 x 1080 if you work under SD project settings - when changing from SD to HD (or HD to SD) you must manually rename the folder and manually point to the other folder (dont use hundreds of clip folders for that!) Again, I found it absolutely helpful to work in a real SD environment - compared to edit with lowres proxies you have a full sd preview, HQ Audio , its more easy to judge if you were on focus (ok, thats limited to SD, but simply switch to HD if necessary) and your customers will work with you without waiting for pre-renders or see videos with dropped frame rates due to processing power. ______________________________ Some more thoughts: - Right now I am working on a music video where timing is extremly important. I neither could work only on lowres proxies nor with mxf HD files due to syncing audio to video , thats horrible if you have no fluent video. The SD workflow makes that easy (difficult enough... even in SD). - there is one limitation: Sonys batch render scripts (even the one that comes with vegas) has a bug regarding multiple channel audio export. At the moment only a 2 track (stereo) audio export works with batch rendering. That means: If you really need your SD files to be 4 channels there is no way to render that (single "render as" works fine, but batch rendering does not). Workaround: Divide the different channels to separate Outputs (busses) and render one or more long WAV files containing the separat channels and use them with your SD files. By grouping the whole bunch editing works fine. Honestly said: I hope that Sony fixes that bug - then SD vs HD files would be ABSOLUTELY not different. If anybody has an idea how to fix the script rg. multichannel rendering , please let me know! I can give some more background information on my experiences. - when working with more than one XDCAM DISK be sure that the file names are different. In the worst case files should be renamed (loosing the option to erase the HD from your harddrive and reimporting them from DISK later). Best is to shoot projects where the clips are steadily named thruover the disks - so no clip has the same name. OK , thats it for today. ULI |
Uli, I would bypass all that lengthy workflow.
Just import the XDCAM HD footage into Vegas, but edit on an SD timeline/project settings. That way you won't take such a performance hit while editing the HD footage. This is how I edited my mountainboarding DVD. Then when I want to output an HD version I just switch the project settings to an HD configuration. Granted, Vegas won't be quite as responsive as editing native SD footage, but if you are on a low powered computer it is still a decent solution, and allows you to use a decent XDCAM workflow instead of adding a load of extra steps to your workflow. |
Edit Lists
Been having trouble inserting edit lists into timeline. There are times, very few, that the edit list drops right in at the curser. More times than not two new tracks are created but no video and or audio. The clips, in the project media, show that they are being used in the timeline but do not appear.
Any suggestions? Thanks Jim |
which timeline Jim? what NLE are you cutting with?
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disable the proxy import on FCP
Hello,
anybody knows how to disable the proxy import on the XDCAM software in Final Cut PRO? Also informations on FCP studio 2 would be great !!! Thanks! |
Max
Proxy import cannot be disabled as of the current version (v1.1.0) of the XDCAM Transfer software on the Mac/FCP. There is a new version of the software (version 2.0) that was announced at NAB and is expected to be released in September this year. This new version notes the ability to read proxies directly from disc, rather than caching (downloading) them to a local hard drive. (see the last part of the following info): Quote:
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greenish ATW on F330
Hello everybody!
Anybody noticed that the ATW on the F330 gives to the pictures a greenish look? BTW the manual white balance works well! I know that the manual white balance is the best choice, but sometime ATW is helpful! Any suggestion on how to get a neutral ATW? Thanks to all! :) |
Return Video Input
Hi Guys,
Does anyone of you know, if there is a possibility to use the >genlock in< as a >return video in<? I use the PDW-F350. The SD - XDCAM - cameras offer this feature. Best regards, Robert |
XDCam Editing & 1080/25p Monitoring
I'm about to commit to a XDCam (F350) camera and am trying to confirm the NLE configuration based on a MacPro (Quad or 8 Core) with a 23 or 30" Apple Cinema display as my primary display running the new Final Cut Studio 2.
I am primarily interested in shooting 1080/25p for indie feature projects and 1080/50i for documentary projects. Seems the more I read the less clear things are given the multiplicity of formats and cards. 1. My major confusion is about monioring. On one hand I was thinking of using a second Apply 23" cineam display for monitoring with the obvious Matrox MXO. In addition I can use it as a portable HDCam mastering solution of a laptop when I travel to Europe (the studio is in Africa) as well as audio outputs to my monitor speakers. What I can't figure out , is if the MXO will support 1080/25p to the cinema display? 2. On the other hand I also wanted to get a 46" Sony Bravia LCD TV (full hd) like the KLV46X200A for clients to see the work. Here again the obvious choice would appear to be to go HDMI with something like the Blackmagic Intensity card, but it doesn't seem to support 1080/25p. Is there any solution out there that would give me a HDI/SDI, DVI and HDMI outputs as well as support 1080/25p, or should I stick to 720/25p to make matters simpler? I once read that the Blackmagic Multibridge Extreme had DVI but it nolonger seems to be on their site (Multibridge Pro and Eclipse don't seem to have DVI). I know that there is the new AJA ioHD but that doesn't seem to have DVI, and it's very expensive. thanks |
Telecine (add pulldown) to 24p footage
I need to mix 24p footage with 60i footage shot with XDCAM HD. I need to edit them both in the same timeline and then export back to an XDCAM Disc.
I think the best way to do this would be to telecine the 24p footage (insert 3:2 pulldown to wrap the 24 frames into a 60i file). Then I could edit on a 60i timeline and then output to disc as 60i. What software do I need to add pulldown to the mxf files? Vegas seems not to be able to do it. After Effects seems to be able to do it (add pulldown to HD footage), but it doesn't support XDCAM HD mxf files (cannot read them or export to mxf) which forces me to go to another intermediate format. Any thoughts? Suggestions? |
try using Compressor to take the 24p to 60I there is some advance settings to do this, but you will not be able to use the MXF files directly you have to import and use the QT files from FCP
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HD Stock Footage from Cambridge, U.K.
Hi guys,
I already searched various stock sites for shots of Cambridge (university campus, maybe King´s College etc.). But unfortunately I couldn´t find anything. We did some filming in Cambridge back in July but unfortunately couldn´t get any shots from the universities as we were on a very tight schedule. Does anyone of you have shots from Cambridge which he would sell? I would really just need one or two good shots. Please PM or mail me. Thanks, Emanuel |
What Chrosziel matte box for Fuji's 4.6x16 HD lens?
...and what insert ring will work?
Here's a link to the lens specs: http://www.fujinon.com/Broadcast/Pro...?cat=27&id=183 Thanks in advance for any help, folks ! Mike |
F350 rental
Hi All,
Any reccomendations on where to rent an F350 in Southern California? I'd like to find a rental paired with the 3.6mm wide angle zoom if possible. Thanks, -Jon |
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Jon,
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I am considering a Sony XDCAM-HD F330, some advice?
I currently am kitted up with a Canon XL2 and am looking to add HD capabilities. Steven House from these forums pointed the Sony out to me after I asked which cameras fit my wish list. It does seem to get me almost everything I want.
I obviously need a lens with the camera and was considering this Fuji: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._17x_1_2_.html and or the Canon AF lens , is it a VCL-719BXS? and where do I get one and at what price? One of the things I have found to be a real problem is the servo focus controls and focus hunting during zoom on the XL2 lens so I want better than that. I understand that the Canon lens for the XDCAM-HD is going to do the same so that is why I am looking at the Fuji first. I also know that there are times when AF is just to handy or even necessary. So is the Fuji a good choice for a manual lens, and is the Canon worth getting for its AF capabilities and where and how much? What are the considerations for a person completely green with an XDCAM-HD? I use Vegas and have fairly fast computers. How many batteries should I have, what accessories or add ons are "must haves"? Would the SD capabilities of the F330 make having an XL2 redundant or are there reasons to hold on to the XL2 even with an F330? (would affect my budget) And lastly, has anyone had any issues with their camera and if so how did they get treated by Sony? |
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PDZ-1 Proxy Browsing Software
I have given a client instructions and links to download the PDZ-1 Proxy Browser and the and the XDCAM Viewer. He had to leave before I could install the MXF files on his Windows laptop. I told him I would send him a disc with the files copied onto it. I did a test by on a Windows XP computer in my office. While the viewer will play the files, there seems to be no way to get the PDZ-1 to play files that were just copied to the hard drive of the Windows computer. Is there a solution to this?
Thanks, Warren Gentry |
Use an external hard drive, make a subfolder with the name of the disc. Take all 4 directories from the disc and copy to that folder. Wash, rinse, repeat for any additional discs.
This works for sure on OSX but I haven't tried it on Windows with the Proxy software yet. The basic idea is to form a location (sub folder) that has all the files and mimics the directory structure of the actual disc. The Sony software expects these to be in a certain place. -gb- |
XDCAM Updates
Hello all
Got my camcorder updated to 1.56 it had to go back to sony to have this done as it needed to be opened to have the update Question can anyone tell me what the updates are as my camcorder never had any from new it is 16 months old I have asked SONY and got no reply as yet Thomas |
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(1) [ F330/F350 ] Enhanced Accuracy of Residual Point Noise Correction The accuracy of residual point noise correction has been enhanced at ex-factory and the productivity is enhanced. (2) [ F330/F350 ] Addition of message displaying function when the KNEE of CINE GAMMA is selected to “Fix”. The function to display [ FIXED BY CINE GAMMA! ] message on the VF/LCD when selecting the fixed KNEE in [ Select function of variable/fixed of KNEE at CINE GAMMA ] added in V1.52 and setting DCC to ON has been added. (3) [ F330/F350 ] Addition of VF DETAIL Setting Function The following modes have been added to the USER U08: VF SETTING menu. A. [PEAKING VOL. LINK] ON/OFF function to interlink to the PEAKING volume B. [ H DETAIL LEVEL ] and [ V DETAIL LEVEL ] When the [PEAKING VOL. LINK] is OFF, H and V detail level can be adjusted. Caution: The default is PEAKING VOL.LINK [ ON ]. (4) [ F330/F350 ] Specification changed to display the local area setting menu after implementing Factory Preset of Service Menu The specification of SERVICE S01: MENU SET [ FACTORY PRESET ] has been changed so that when the POWER switch is turned on after implementing Factory Preset, it returns to the factory setting state that displays the local area setting menu. (5) [ F330/F350 ] Addition of function to control the audio level of Rear with the knob of Audio Level on the front 3/4 The function to select from the following three methods for controlling the Rear audio level has been added. 1. Control with the Audio Level knob on the front 2. Control with the Audio Level knob in the audio adjustment lid 3. Mix. Menu affected MAINTENANCE MA02: AUDIO-2 MIC CH1 LEVEL: FRONT ( SIDE1/F+S1 ) MIC CH2 LEVEL: FRONT ( SIDE1/F+S2 ) REAR1/WRR LEVEL: SIDE1 ( FRONT/F+S1 ) REAR2/WRR LEVEL: SIDE2 ( FRONT/F+S2 ) Caution: The defaults are as follows. MIC CH1 LEVEL: FRONT MIC CH2 LEVEL: FRONT REAR1/WRR LEVEL: SIDE1 REAR2/WRR LEVEL: SIDE2 Bugs Fixed (1) [ F330/F350 ] When shooting a high-lighted object, the Auto Iris troubles. When Auto Iris is functioning, if a high-lighted object is shot, depending on the movement of high-lighted object, the Auto Iris may trouble. This bug has been fixed. (2) [ F330/F350 ] When shooting in the recording Format: DVCAM aspect ratio 4:3, if the ND filter is operated, the played picture becomes 16:9 aspect ratio. When shooting in the aspect ratio 4:3 of recording format: DVCAM, if the ND filter is operated, the aspect ratio becomes 16:9 when played back. This bug has been fixed. |
F330, price reduction? or F335?
I read everyone's reports on the F335 & F355 at IBC. I want to buy a lower cost Xdcam HD camcorder soon.
What is Sony USA's marketing plan? Is the F330 to be discontinued, to be replaced by the F335 at the same price point? Or is the F335 to be sold along side the F33o with a F330 price cut after the rebate runs out? I will also order the 2-inch viewfinder and the Fujinon 1/2"-18x HD lens. Thanks for your help. |
Consumer HD thoughts
Hi all,
I make DVD's that go direct to the consumer. I've got 5 XDCAM HD programs (THANKS to all for your help with the last mess...still don't know why each and every clip had the fields changed). At the moment, all these program are being released as SD widescreen. We're starting to get customers asking for either Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. I know the jury is still out regarding which, if any format, will "win". That being put aside, I really need to educate myself on both formats and what I need to do to author for either. Right now I'm using FCP. I'm assuming that I'll need to get an extermal burner for either format. But what about authoring software, compression etc. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks! |
new sony cam...
Any thoughts on this new cam?
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/1683...-hd-camcorder/ |
Plenty...
Dean, with all due respect, you're a bit late to the party. You'll find plenty of thoughts and discussion in the XDCAM EX forum.
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=150 Please direct all reading and inquiries over there. Thanks, -gb- |
I've had no luck with "consumer" HD formats yet... in presentations, I have used a mac outputting an HD quicktime, but have yet to successfully put out an HD-DVD (which DVD Studio Pro can do).
As for the winner of the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray war, I predict the internet (and torrents, with their lower bitrate, and lower file-size), much like CDs trumped MiniDiscs (which were recordable, and sounded better) and DVDs trumped laserdiscs. The masses would prefer convenience, rather than quality. Disagree? Search google for a little startup called "YouTube". |
New XDCAM HD Family brochure
Here is the new XDCAM HD Family brochure.
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Preliminary PDW-700 & PDW-HD1500 Brochure
Here is the preliminary brochure from the XDCAM HD422 camcorder PDW-700 and deck PDW-HD1500.
Preliminary brochure PDW-700 & PDW-HD1500 |
SRW 3D Mode
I know that on the SRW-1 (and I'm assuming the SRW-5800 will be able to also.) you can use the 3D mode to record two video inputs to one tape. Now is that 4:2:2 signal coming from a 2:2:2 signal (so the first channel gets combined) or is it truely two individual 4:2:2 signals? Since it's called 3D mode, I figured that might use the two cameras to come up with the luminance for both (since shooting 3D they'd be right next to each other).
So two inputs would each record 2:2:2 and then the luminance channel would be combined to form two 4:2:2 channels. The reason I'm asking is because I'm looking at running 2 F900s to one SRW-1 or SRW5800; Cutting down the amount of stock we need. (I already know 2 channels gets you recording at 880Mbps). |
As I understand it, it's a true 2-channel system suitable for use as you describe.
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Zeiss Sharp Max
Anyone have a good outlet for purchasing one? Anyone have a more affordable/comparable alternative for taking the guesswork out of back focus?
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Dan,
Maybe these PDF's help you out. Print them and use them as a target for backfocus adjustment. http://home.planet.nl/%7evanur006/vi...cus%20card.pdf http://home.planet.nl/%7evanur006/vi...ity%20card.pdf |
Sony XD HD cam
If I will be shooting on this camera - the Sony XD HD 350 and then transfering to 35mm film, what's the best setting to put the camera at? 23.94 p? And when I put the camera to this does it automatically put the camera into 1080p and 16:9?
Thank you and I look forward to hearing the reply. |
1080/25p vs 1080/50i for down converting to SD
Has anyone compared the SD down converted results of shooting in 1080/25p vs 1080/50i.
I am shooting a music video with a brand new F350, destined for SD broadcast (DVCam tape submission) as well as possible future DVD release. My plan is to shoot in 1080/25p (1/50 shutter, cine gamma 2), edit natively and then down convert in Final Cut Studio to SD. Past posts seem to indicate that 1080/25p is the best way to go for DVD delivery, but how does it fare when down converted to SD. I am also unsure if it makes any difference down converting the final XDCam HD edit to some other SD format like DVCPro50 rather thn Pal DV, if I'm going to export to tape via firewire to a HVR-M25 deck in DVCam mode. Lastly, will exporting via HDMI (Blackmagic Intensity) to the HVR-M25 s opposed to firewire make any difference? |
import stereo audio from transfer program to fcp
I have not used the transfer program a whole lot with the XD Cam. I mainly digitize thru a Kona card in HDSDI. In using the transfer program, my originally shot stereo audio comes into fcp as 2 mono tracks. Has anyone had any luck importing in stereo? And if so, which setting am I missing?
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its just the way the XDCAM Transfer application handles audio (as discrete mono tracks)
fwiw the data has not been changed any; whether the audio pairs are handled as dual mono or stereo is just an information flag just select the 2 mono tracks in the timeline and choose Modify > Stereo Pair from the menu, thereafter those tracks will be treated as a stereo pair |
XDcamHD shooter in Chicago?
Looking for experienced XDcamHD shooter in Chicago area to shoot a single interview. Anyone have any leads?
Thanks, Mike Murray Media Production Group Dartmouth College Hanover, NH |
Is anyone planning to use an AJA Io-HD....
...in a system along with your XDCAM gear? In this difficult change-over time between SD and HD, we will actually have three active formats in our shop; BetacamSP, HDV, and XDCAM-HD. We plan on using the Io-HD to hook up the Beta and HDV. But in order to take advantage of XDCAM's file transfer features, we plan to connect to the computer via the iLink/Firewire cable. Isn't this a Firewire 400 cable?
Additionally, the AJA Io-HD also connects to the computer via a Firewire 800 cable. For those using AJA Io-HD and XDCAM-HD, how are you connecting things together? Are you using the same Firewire bus, for both the XDCAM and the Io-HD? Or have you purchased a PCI Firewire card for one of these connections? |
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