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Phil Bloom November 22nd, 2006 02:03 PM

i dont know what is the problem, but I am using my sony a1 as an on the go dvcam deck for transfering footage onto tape, whenever i play my xd into it through firewire it switches the audio record mode to 32khz. There is no setting to change it on the a1. its auto. any ideas?

Tip McPartland November 22nd, 2006 03:12 PM

DVCAM 4 channel is always 32K
 
I think what's going on is that the camera is conforming the 4-channel to the DV or DVCAM standard, which for 4 channels is always 32K.

Tip

Ivan Snoeckx November 22nd, 2006 03:14 PM

How many channels of audio did you record on the XDCAM HD?

It's only a guess, but could it be possible when 4 channels of audio are recorded on the F330, the A1 automatically switches to 4 channels 32 kHz like on DV or DVCAM equipment?

Try the same thing you are doing with 2 channels of audio recorded on the F330. What is the result then?

Phil Bloom November 22nd, 2006 03:37 PM

yeah thats what it is...I will keep it as is as channels 3 and 4 will always have my stereo mic.

thanks!

Alister Chapman November 23rd, 2006 02:33 AM

If you output DV/HDV over firewire then to ensure backwards compatibility the audio is converted to 4 channel 32 Khz. If you use FAM mode for file transfer then all 4 channels are exported at 48khz.

Phil Bloom November 23rd, 2006 05:57 PM

thanks. Until the production company am working for get an xdcam machine in their MCR will have to dump to DVCAM for them so they can get transcripts, digitize etc...

Alister Chapman November 24th, 2006 01:57 AM

You could always get a USB or Firewire Hard drive and copy the clips from the camera to the hard drive. You'd need a PC or Mac to do this but it would be quicker than dumping to tape plus all the clip names and references and most of the other advantages of being file based would be retained.

Phil Bloom December 2nd, 2006 06:03 PM

what is the model number of the f350 viewfinder?

Alister Chapman December 3rd, 2006 03:16 AM

DXF-20W is the f350 VF.

Phil Bloom December 3rd, 2006 12:46 PM

Thanks Alister,

I am probably going to upgrade my VF to that one

Phil Bloom December 12th, 2006 03:54 PM

Thanks to Nigel Cooper and John Preston I now have a 350!!! Prestons took my used 330 and gave me a barely used 350 for an extra 3k. Not bad!!!

Simon Wyndham December 12th, 2006 06:22 PM

Nice Murdoch, nice!

Jonathan Ames December 13th, 2006 08:36 PM

Humbly, the best of luck to you on your shooting. The 350 is truly an amazing camera that we simply loved on set.

Phil Bloom December 14th, 2006 02:54 AM

anybody have a link for the 330/350 manual online. I sent my english language one back to prestons and only got a japanese one in the 350 box!

Ivan Snoeckx December 14th, 2006 09:09 AM

Hi Phil,

Take a look on the US site of Sony Professional. Here is the link.

Sony Pro US

Look under "Tech Info", their you will find all XDCAM and XDCAM HD operation manuals.

Hope this helps!

Phil Bloom January 15th, 2007 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

I am not knocking XDCAM in any way. All I'm trying to say is that if your market wants DVCAM/Betacam/Digibeta then be very careful about choosing XDCAM if it is your only camera. The right tool for the job etc. In a year or two's time things may be reversed and XDCAM may be the dominant format, who can tell. But until then if you are a UK based freelancer you need to consider what will bring the best return for your investment. The camera you like the most or the camera in most demand.

As much as I love my xdcam I am going to need to get a second camera. All my work is SD and the dumping to tape at the end of each day is killing me.

I need a workhorse to use for the day to day stuff and keep the xd for my own productions and HD work.

I could get a new DSR 450, a second hand 570 or a second hand 500.

Not sure which one to go for to be honest!

Peter Newsom January 18th, 2007 08:03 AM

Hi Phil, I have been going through similar considerations. I'd love to get the XDcam, but my client doesn't need it yet.

The DSR450 is certainly priced well, at 13K in Canada, though it is missing a few features. If it had firewire in and out, like the Panasonics it would be perfect for the sports news work that I do.

Used 500's and 570's seem to be going for about $7K around here, and they are scarce. It makes a new 450 for 13K a good deal.

I have also been considering a new head for my old BVV5 back, but that will cost just about the same as the 450. However, Beta SP is still the most common format for broadcasters in Canada.

Looks like SD is going to be around for sometime yet.

Phil Bloom January 18th, 2007 01:28 PM

yeah I agree Peter.

I would love to just use my xdcam hd but nobody can take the discs let alone the HD!

I bought a new DSR 450. It is very nice. So similar to look at and use as the XDCAM f350. Looks like the same body...almost!

Peter Newsom January 18th, 2007 01:53 PM

Congratulations on the camera Phil!

I have yet to get my hands on one, but it should be soon. What glass are you running on it?

From the pictures I've seen it indeed looks very similar to the F330/350.

I would be very interested to read about your thoughts on the camera, if you have the time.

Good luck!

Peter

Phil Bloom January 18th, 2007 02:01 PM

i have the canon 20 x 8.4 with 2x extender. Pretty standard for this camera. it's very nice actually.

I am impressed with it. It has amazingly detailed paint tools and shoots progressive. Love the daylight white balance button and the clear nd. Just like the f350


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