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Brian Jansen April 24th, 2007 01:38 PM

new lens for XDCAM HD at NAB?
 
Does anyone know of any new HD 1/2 inch lens for NAB 07?

Thanks

Ivan Snoeckx April 25th, 2007 10:35 AM

Yes, Canon released another wide angle lens. It's the KH13x4.5 KRS.

Brian Jansen April 26th, 2007 07:46 PM

thanks Ivan.... that looks like a nice lens!

Ivan Snoeckx April 27th, 2007 05:15 AM

according to Canon's new pricelist, it's going to cost 12.800 US Dollar.

Too bad it hasn't a 2x extender.

Richard Lesser April 27th, 2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivan Snoeckx (Post 668383)
according to Canon's new pricelist, it's going to cost 12.800 US Dollar.

Too bad it hasn't a 2x extender.

I own the KJ16ex7.7B IRSE. Not sure if you know about that one. It has 2x extender and the "e" drive functions. Paid about $12,500 for it.
Also a link to an Article. http://acquisition.broadcastnewsroom....jsp?id=130781

Brian Jansen April 27th, 2007 10:00 PM

thanks richard,
Have you had that lens for a while? Is it a 2/3 lens and you use the adaptor?
Any other user reports on it would be great.
I like Ivan's lens suggestion because I'd like a wider angle.

brian

Ivan Snoeckx April 28th, 2007 01:52 AM

Brian,

The lens that Richard is mentioning is a 2/3" lens. This lens also exisist as 1/2" version: KH16ex5.7 IRSE List price is 13.900 US dollar.

The KH13x4.5 KRS is indeed wider, but it has no 2x extender and E-drive functions.
The KH16ex5.7 IRSE is also a high-end lens in the HDgc serie like the KH10ex3.6 IRSE and KH21ex5.7 IRSE. So I guess that the quality will be better then the new 13x.

Here is Canon's new pricelist from NAB 2007: Price List NAB 2007

Richard Lesser May 2nd, 2007 08:11 PM

I'm sorry, the lens that I own is kh16ex5.7_irse.
It is 1/2" and I paid around $12,500 for it. I like
the lighter weight than the 21 times version and
it has all the options.

Warren Shultz June 4th, 2007 03:15 PM

Canon KH16ex5.7 IRSE
 
I'm close to a purchase of a 350L camera and I'm leaning toward the Canon KH16ex5.7 IRSE myself. We'll be using it for an Outdoor Channel show and this looks to be a great utility lens. Anyone have comments or know of Fuji equivalents?

Jeremy Doyle June 5th, 2007 09:27 AM

Canon 5.7
 
We are currently using the canon KH21ex21x5.7 on 330's for shooting hunting and fishing shows. We are about to get 6 more camera's (2 350's and 4 330's) and this time we are going to opt for the fujinon lenses. Comparing a canon 5.7 with the fujionon 5.7 the fujinon is actually a bit wider which is very useful when in boats, tree stands, ground blinds, etc. I also like that the fujinon's have a direct connect so I don't have to run an additional cable from the lens to the camera. Price is also a little cheaper. I think the canon is a little better glass, but not enough that it would out weigh the advantages of the fujinon lens.

Of course this is all just personal opinion. It would be good if you can demo the lenses you are considering.

Jeremy Doyle

Alister Chapman June 5th, 2007 09:32 AM

I once had a hot-shoe lens fall off a camera and smash. If you have a cabled lens that won't happen. Of course, the lens should never of been so loose as to have fallen off in the first place.....:)

Greg Boston June 5th, 2007 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman (Post 692201)
I once had a hot-shoe lens fall off a camera and smash. If you have a cabled lens that won't happen. Of course, the lens should never of been so loose as to have fallen off in the first place.....:)

Did that camera have the movable rubber friction lock as does the XDCAM HD?

Just curious,

-gb-

Warren Shultz June 5th, 2007 06:24 PM

Canon KH16ex5.7 IRSE
 
I've wondered if it's worth getting a 2/3 inch version of any of these and using the adapter. Would that build some future proofing or only more expense?

William Osorio June 6th, 2007 01:12 PM

I have a 2/3 SD Canon Zoom Lens J21ax7.8B, I can't complaint about this glass
it sells when I need it......

http://footage.shutterstock.com/video.html?id=35266

Alister Chapman June 6th, 2007 02:05 PM

Greg.. No rubber fiction lock, that came on the next model and would probably prevented the loss of the lens.

William.. Have you tried an 1/2" HD lens on your camera? The difference may surprise you. While you can get away with SD lenses it's not until you start using dedicated 1/2" HD glass that these cameras really shine.

Using 2/3" lenses on 1/2" cameras is a compromise. The optical path lengths are different which can lead to increased CA and the photo sites on 1/2" cameras are much smaller than on 2/3" cameras so the lens may appear soft. It will depend on the individual lens, but if it was really as simple as sticking in an adapter why would the lens manufacturers make separate lenses for 2/3 and 1/2. My experience has been that 2/3" HD lenses are no better than 1/2 SD lenses on XDCAM HD camcorders.


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