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Mark Sobel March 16th, 2006 07:18 PM

Moving the FX1/Z1U Viewfinder Front
 
I'm working on removing the viewfinder from the rear of the camera, and attaching it up front so that the camera can be properly balanced on a shoulder. Coming up with a mechanical plan isn't my problem. The catch is that it will require a 33-lead, 10mm flex cable (17 leads front, 16 leads behind), of about 1/2 a meter long or so (one end will have a zif socket attached).

Does anyone know if this might happen to be a generic sort of thing in the flex cable world, (if so, who has it?) or is it something proprietary that Sony designed to be about 3 inches for this specific camera line? The fact that it is a nice even 10mm, and that it uses a zif socket manufactured by a 3rd party (which sounds like a "catalogue" type of item), makes me think that it might actually be a standard configuration in the flex cable world ... though not that I'm hopeful that anyone actually makes this cable just to sell generically.


I can have 100 prototypes (minimum order) manufactered for about $5000(US), but that's more than the cost of the camera.

If anyone has any thoughts, please let me know. Are there any little "hobby kits" out there to allow the tinkerer to create a personal piece of flex cable the same way they have little circuit-board etching kits?

Thanks
Mark, Los Angeles

Marc Colemont March 17th, 2006 01:08 AM

To me it looks like you bought the wrong camera, instead of ripping your camera appart. That's why I bought the JVC HD100.
Extending these kind of cables will also introduce interference problems on your display.

Kurth Bousman March 17th, 2006 09:48 AM

yea- sorry Mark , that sounds like a real bad idea. Why not just ducktape a film loupe to the lcd or, if you're so inclined , develope a viewfinder attachment to the lcd that does exactly what you want. Or think about using video out to connect a third party solution ( i.e. 7" lcd monitor , lcd glasses , etc. ). Ribbon cables are extremely fragile and you would have one running on the cameras exterior- not exactly an elegant solution. Kurth

Boyd Ostroff March 17th, 2006 09:53 AM

I hate to join the chorus of naysayers, but this doesn't make any sense to me either. You're gonna end up with a sort of "Frankenstein Monster" and of course also void your warranty.

I use a Video Innovators shoulder rest with my Z1 which puts the LCD screen in a good position while allowing the camera to be shifted farther towards my shoulder.

Patrick Pike March 17th, 2006 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert M Wright
I'm sure not doing anything like that to my FX1.

On the other hand, its not my camera, so I say, go ahead and try it!

Seriously though, I would have to believe that there is a better 'add on' solution than risking losing the viewfinder completely.

Joe Lumbroso March 17th, 2006 02:01 PM

Mark, if you can afford to risk it, I say do it and post pictures!

Chris Barcellos March 17th, 2006 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurth Bousman
yea- sorry Mark , that sounds like a real bad idea. , if you're so inclined , develope a viewfinder attachment to the lcd that does exactly what you want. Kurth


These are actually available for digital still cams.

Kurth Bousman March 17th, 2006 03:34 PM

Chris - who makes them because that might be a good idea, although still cam or digicam lcds are typically smaller than the fx/z1 lcd. Kurth

Mark Utley March 17th, 2006 04:01 PM

For anyone who hasn't seen it, this is an interesting related read:

http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/articles/article78.php

Robin Davies-Rollinson March 17th, 2006 04:51 PM

The idea of fixing a lens and eyepiece over the LCD screen sounds promising. It would be the same principle as that of the combined viewfinder on the Canon XL2.

Robin

Kurth Bousman March 17th, 2006 05:41 PM

googled it once - here's the first entry

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/opt-x.html

Kurth

Kurth Bousman March 17th, 2006 05:48 PM

oops- the first ones out of business- here's another-

http://www.steves-digicams.com/xtendaview_pro.html

Kurth

Chris Barcellos March 17th, 2006 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurth Bousman
Chris - who makes them because that might be a good idea, although still cam or digicam lcds are typically smaller than the fx/z1 lcd. Kurth

Here is one for Sony:

http://keenzo.com/showproduct.asp?ref=GBA&ID=11240

Here is another: http://shopping.yahoo.com/s:Digital%...2F%20magnifier

I actually made my own by for Sony DCS 85 by using the eye piece from my Kowa Six shade hood. Got a peice of PCV conduit and used velcro to secure it to the camera. Worked pretty well for my old eyes.

Chris Barcellos March 17th, 2006 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurth Bousman
oops- the first ones out of business- here's another-

http://www.steves-digicams.com/xtendaview_pro.html

Kurth

Point is all you really need is the right element and design for your own camera!!

John McGinley March 17th, 2006 06:04 PM

Unfortunately they're only for LCD's no larger than 2.5"


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