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Chris, I found your 2 ads and I might be interested. First I need to do a bit of research because I really want to get a bayonet mount made this time around (my wide adaptors go on and off a lot, often in a rush) and I need to know I can get one made somewhere or cobble one together myself without totally breaking the bank.
Does anyone know how much a spare FX1/Z1 lens hood costs? Probably silly money. I'm thinking of butchering one to use as the basis of a bayonet mount. Also does any ring or fitting in existence come with an 85mm female thread that would mate with the Aspheron thread, or is this really something that needs custom machining (I don't mean 85 to 72, I know that doesn't exist)? If some sort of off-the-shelf ring is available then it could be screwed/glued to a butchered FX1 lens hood. Tom, do you reckon that Cavision LH100W P/M 4:3 hood is still the best bet for shading the Aspheron on a Z1? Nick |
I had thought about using a lens hood as a basis for a bayonet mount at one point. They seem to run about $60 USD on ebay.
I wasn't able to find a 85mm threaded ring to fit the aspheron, so I scrapped the idea....but if you happen to find one let me know. |
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New members are not allowed access to the Classifieds for the first few months, but you should certainly not have that problem! |
The closest I get is Private Messages, and Private Classified doesn't appear anywhere Boyd. So I'd be mighty pleased if you'd look into it as I have some good manfrotto kit to sell.
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Nick - I'm interested to see you looking longingly at the FX1's hood, as I did exactly that with my VX2k. I bought a new Sony hood and butchered it about in an effort to attach the bayonet to the Aspheron. No-go. But go ahead - hack at the FX1 hood and let me know how you get on.
If you email me off list I can send you the drawing the lathe operator will need to make the special 85 mm > 72 mm adapter. I never found the 85 mm ring you're looking for, but a correspondent of mine has had a bayonet adapter made for him in Australia. No, he wouldn't make me one, it took so damn long to machine. The Cavision hood is pretty useless on the Aspheron, and that's simply because the Aspheron sees so wide that the very corners of the frame are actually *just* picking up the Aspheron's front ring. I use mine unhooded now, thanking the lord for T* Zeiss multi-coating. Another point: The Cavision hood is 4:3 and you really need a 16:9 hood. Anyone know of one? tom. |
If the corner-to-corner measurement of the Z1 hood is bigger than the outside diameter of the Aspheron then maybe it could be made as a tight push fit if the hood is cut carefully. I'll send you a PM in a minute Tom.
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I have a Century .7X zoom through available for sale. It is listed in the clasified section. It's brand new in the box.
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'Your administrator has disabled private messaging' I'm told, Nick.
Chris - I did in fact make myself a hood, but it's too fragile for professional run'n' gun, which is what I do. tom. |
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I've sent you a message via email instead Tom. If it doesn't arrive pls send the drawings to the email address you'll find on the contact page of my signature. Cheers
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Hey Stephen, Back to the shooting interiors of houses with the wide-angle lens, I do that for a living here in southern California and use wide-angle lens all the time for my Z1-U. Just beware of the the up-down pans for they really show the barrel distortion using any wide-angle lens. The horizontal pans work somewhat though and I have been succesful at doing this more with the Century 0.6x wide angle than with the Century 0.8x lens. There was more barrel distortion with the 0.8x lens. You can check out one of my recent movies I did for an agent that appears when you open his website: http://keithmuirhead.com I used the .6x lens on just about every shot, except for a couple of sunset shots. The latter part of the movie shows the interiors. Tell me what you think. |
Hey, enjoyed the tour around the palace. The barrel distortion was there if you cared to look for it (the three car garage shot at the end seemed to be one of the more obvious ones) but I liked your slow zooms and pans Ramon, also your lighting and positioning.
Is the Century 0.6x wideangle a partial zoom through? Do you have a 16:9 hood for it? tom. |
Hey Tom - see my thread about this lens and hood here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=58525
You can zoom part of the way - never really did a serious test, but I'd guess it's somewhere around halfway. I was just playing with this lens yesterday. I love the expanded field of view, but at full HD resolution it is definitely soft. This wouldn't be as much of an issue if downconverting to SD or for a website. Ramon is correct, as you tilt upwards the barrel distortion becomes extreme. You can really see this outside in the open when you have a view to the horizon. Shooting with the horizon at the center of the frame gives you a flat line. But as you tilt up or down you get either a "smile" or a "frown" :-) |
Yeah, very true Boyd. You definitely want to avoid the "smile" or "frown" look. I had that in a couple of my shots in the interior. As far as horizontal panning though, the worst and noticable time when the barrel distortion is apparent is if you have an ocean horizon or a pair of straight pillars that end up curving outward. I shouldn't have used the wide-angle lens for that one particular shot in the video, but oh well, still learning and the client didn't complain about it.
But the .6x is a partial zoom-through. You only have a little bit less that halfway to play with though. But it's a big difference still in the amount of expanded view that is captured. I would definitely recommend it especially for filmming interiors, for it makes the house and rooms look bigger. |
''I would definitely recommend it especially for filmming interiors''
Can't agree with you there Ramon. What architect wants his walls and ceilings and doors and windows shown curved? If you're seriously into filming bulidings then it's time you investigated in one of the single element aspherics, for they - and only they - will keep the barrel distortion at bay. I'd seen your thread Boyd. Trouble is my Aspheron needs a 16:9 hood that can clamp to a 112 mm outside diameter. tom. |
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