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Luie Dalmasy Jr. November 21st, 2009 03:06 AM

FX1000 & Premiere
 
hey everyone!
So I'm working on my first music video with my FX1000 on Sunday and I am very excited!
The video is actually for my band (10zero)

I did some test shooting today at the location because I noticed it was a little dark in there and just as I suspected the camera made the room look a lot brighter but I also got this grainy look.. like little tiny dots were jumping all over the place.
I thought i would go to Home Depot and pick up some lights. They are pretty nice and only ran me $6 each. I think they are on sale or something. ANYWAY
in my video there will be a bunch of amazing kids break dancing! and I mean these kids are amazing! I will post my video up here when I'm done.

my question is... do you guys think I should shoot it at 24p or 30p?
I'm in the middle of encoding the test footage now and maybe I'll even upload that too later on.

I know these kids are really fast doing headspins and stuff (You'll see) so I wanted to make sure I get the better frame rate to record them on.

also I noticed on premiere there is no preset for 1080i 24p SCAN there are things like 1081 25.??? or 1080i 29.???

should I go into the settings and try to change it to match my cameras 1080i 24p?
if so, any tips?

Thanks and I'll be sure to upload the test footage later! :)

Jeff Harper November 21st, 2009 06:58 AM

30p, not 24p. Keep your camera steady as possible with 30p, on a tripod whenever possible.

Go to camera menu to AGC setting and limit your gain to 12dB to get rid of the grain.

Adam Gold November 21st, 2009 10:59 AM

For fast motion you should be shooting 60i.

Jeff Harper November 21st, 2009 11:51 AM

I agree with Adam, but you didn't ask about 60i, you asked about 24p and 30p. 30p is the lesser of the two evils.

For the web you can process 60i to progressive, not a big deal.

Luie Dalmasy Jr. November 22nd, 2009 12:22 AM

ohh
 
you guys are the best!
Ok so my video with the really slow moving things I'll shoot on 30p
and for the quick break dancing kids I'll shoot on 60i

but I'm also having an issue with premiere. i can't find my exact camera setting for capturing or exporting...

Luie Dalmasy Jr. November 22nd, 2009 12:25 AM

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1 more thing... when would i use 24p?

Ron Evans November 22nd, 2009 07:35 AM

"1 more thing... when would i use 24p? "

When you want to transfer to film.

Ron Evans

Adam Gold November 22nd, 2009 01:43 PM

...which for most people means "never."

Don't shoot 30p on the same video as 60i. There's no reason to, no benefit at all, and it may make Premiere throw up. Just shoot 60i and use the 1440 x 1080 60i preset in Premiere. Make your life as easy as possible while editing, and then if you really want to, you can deinterlace the whole thing on export. But really, there's no reason to do this either, unless you really like the look.

Luie Dalmasy Jr. November 22nd, 2009 08:52 PM

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lol Ok so I'll stick with not shooting in 24 or 30p for now.
So when capturing is this good?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2786/...640078f8_o.png

Adam Gold November 22nd, 2009 11:56 PM

Yep. That's the one.

Luie Dalmasy Jr. November 23rd, 2009 02:01 AM

Hey
 
thanks a lot Adam. I just shot something in Low light and it was looking really crazy on my computer screen... I got all of these lines across the screen when anything moved (Not sure what this is called) and then I even got this waving looking effect like I was shooting under water lol

I linked the footage over to Encore and burned a DVD and it looked much better... not as sharp as I was hoping for though

Rob Morse November 23rd, 2009 12:35 PM

Might be your graphics card. Have you edited HDV prior to the FX1000?

Luie Dalmasy Jr. November 23rd, 2009 01:57 PM

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yea you know I was thinking that.
No I have not.
I have a macbook pro

13-inch: 2.26GHz
Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB Memory
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics

I'm going to get 4GB of ram next month.

So if my graphics card is not good enough will this effect the output to another source like DVD or is it only going to effects the way it shows up on my screen?

Adam Gold November 23rd, 2009 02:12 PM

Neither Premiere nor Encore uses your graphics card for much of anything other than display. It won't affect your DVDs. But your card should be fine.

The effects you are describing might just be a limitation of your monitor. HDV is meant to be displayed on HDTVs, not PC monitors. But can't know for sure unless we see it.

You do know that DVDs are not Hi Def, right? So they won't be as sharp as what you shot?

Luie Dalmasy Jr. November 23rd, 2009 07:59 PM

yea
 
Yea Adam it's kind of dumb lol I'm trying to figure out the best way to output my films. I think DVD would have to be the best for now. but I mean... why bother shooting in HD then. Future proof? ... I donno

Adam Gold November 23rd, 2009 11:10 PM

Blu-Ray players are now $129. On Black Friday they'll be $89. Burners aren't much more. What are you waiting for?

Shoot, edit, master in HD. Then downconvert to DVD at the last minute. This way you have both but only need to do most of the work once.

Leslie Wand November 24th, 2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luie Dalmasy Jr. (Post 1451516)
Yea Adam it's kind of dumb lol I'm trying to figure out the best way to output my films. I think DVD would have to be the best for now. but I mean... why bother shooting in HD then. Future proof? ... I donno

1. material shot and edited in hd THEN transcoded to dvd looks better than straight sd.

2. you can include a hd file (mp4, m2t, etc.,) on your dvd - if someone can access it, they can play it on their pc / mac

3. you can re-release later on in blu-ray or whatever.

Luie Dalmasy Jr. November 24th, 2009 05:40 PM

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thanks. I was actually wondering about the first statement.
and the second one is a good idea I didn't think of and I was actually thinking to just save everything and when I get a BR burner I'll start burning everything on BR

Thanks
Leslie

Lukas Siewior November 29th, 2009 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luie Dalmasy Jr. (Post 1451910)
thanks. I was actually wondering about the first statement.
and the second one is a good idea I didn't think of and I was actually thinking to just save everything and when I get a BR burner I'll start burning everything on BR

Thanks
Leslie

What he meant is - do the whole process in HD. Once finished with edit, export the project to mpeg2 dvd format. This will give you higher quality then converting the footage to SD first then editing it.

John Gayman December 1st, 2009 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Gold (Post 1451561)
Blu-Ray players are now $129. On Black Friday they'll be $89. Burners aren't much more. What are you waiting for?

Granted, after this holiday season there should be a lot more Blu-ray players out there but the problem is not the price of players or burners, it's the price of media. When I last checked BD-R media was still $13-15 per disc. It will need to drop to around $5 before I jump in.

There is also the question of BD-R and BD-RE compatibility with the cheaper players. I think we're going to go through the DVD-R/+R compatibility learning curve all over again.


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