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Stelios Christofides January 30th, 2010 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Liebergot (Post 1479469)
...But overall if you transcode from the compressed AVCHD codec to an Intermediate, you should be just fine...

Michael, thanks for the info. That sounds fine then. Do you loose any quality from this transcode business?

Stelios

Michael Liebergot January 30th, 2010 05:07 PM

Not really, nothing noticeable.

Leslie Wand January 30th, 2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stelios Christofides (Post 1479569)
Do you loose any quality from this transcode business?
Stelios

i regularly transcode to .mxf (vegas) for doing anything more than c to c. if there is any loss i certainly can't see it, and editing it becomes a joy*....

*well, depending on what it is ;-)

Ron Evans January 30th, 2010 07:14 PM

I transcode to Canopus HQ and edit in Edius with no noticeable change and the editing runs as fast as DV in Edius. Bear in mind that which ever intermediate you choose will result in files that are from 3 to 5 times the size of the AVCHD files and will need to be on a fast hard drive too as the data rate will be proportionally higher. External USB drives may not work, eSATA will work though. Edius Neo will apparently work for several tracks native full resolution with a fast PC so you may want to look into that too.

Ron Evans

Michael Dontigney February 4th, 2010 10:38 AM

Also remember.... Edius 6 will probably have the AVCHD "Booster" incorporated and Premiere CS5 should be built on the Mercury engine that can handle multiple native AVCHD files with effects like butta.

So, we may have a few months of transcoding, or straight cuts in PPCS4 before the updated software is released.

Until then you could do the Neo2 booster and edit it in RT if so desired.

James Strange February 6th, 2010 07:31 PM

Simply Electrionics
 
Has anyone bought from Simply Electronics before?

I'm liking the price of the Sony FX1000, (to replace my FX7)

James

Peter D. Parker February 8th, 2010 08:30 AM

James, if you look at the web site for Simply electics, for the Z5, under Special Deals, they say
" The Sony HVR-Z5 Camcorder comes with an interchangeable HD Carl Zeiss lens and a 1/3 bayonet joint mechanism. You can also use lens from popular Sony SLR cameras with a special adaptor."

If they're saying that they either don't know the product or have copied it from the Z7.

Peter

Sean Seah February 8th, 2010 09:45 AM

HWM Sony HXR-NX5 Review Firewerkz Films by Sean Seah

Heres a review i did last Friday. Edits ok on my Dell XPS on vegas9.

Tom Hardwick February 8th, 2010 10:36 AM

Hey, liked your test of the NX7 and your jump at the start. Didn't quite understand your evaluation at about the 8.5 minute mark saying low light was limited to +6 dB of gain, so could you expand on that please? Also the top screen - how does it compare in Bright Sunshine to my Z1, which is superb.

tom.

Sean Seah February 8th, 2010 10:14 PM

Hi Tom, I meant that the usable gain is 6db to me. I found the noise at 9db too obvious for personal preference.

The LCD is better than Z1 for sure. I tried the Z5 against the FX1 sometime ago and that showed up quite obviously. The resolution is much better too. Only thing is there is a purplish coating on the LCD which makes it a little reflective at certain angles. Other than that the EVF rocks too. Better than what I have on the EX1.

Lukas Siewior February 9th, 2010 07:07 AM

Sean, I see you had Z5 next to NX5 - how do you compare images from both cams? How's the different codec affecting the image quality?

And also - how much video can you fit on 16GB card in max quality?

Sean Seah February 9th, 2010 07:57 AM

Lukas, I didnt have the chance to take the z5 out for a side by side comparison. But when I compared the footage in V9, AVCHD looks a little better but that is not scientific so I didnt make a claim.

at 1920x1080 25p FX (24Mbps) mode, a 16Gb card can do 85min. So 2 cards already does like 3hrs with one FP 970! That is outstanding in my option, especially for a wedding / events chap.

Affordable media also means one could have loads of backups, which is not too far from the tape days. I guess the only thing that would hold me back would be editing AVCHD on a lower spec machine. I'm running an XPS I7 here so it was pretty ok.

Tom Hardwick February 9th, 2010 10:25 AM

Thanks for your views on the screens and it sounds as if (from your replies) that the NX5's screen is a lot better than the Z7's (which I presume is the same as the Z5's).

I ask about viewing in direct sunlight as that's where I work mainly - run 'n'n gun weddings on summer lawns. In this specific circumstance the Z1’s screen is far better and for one big reason – it’s perfectly visible in bright, direct, full-on sunlight.

I’m a great believer in filming strangers using a side screen, as approaching people with 2.5 kg of camera sticking out of your forehead (using the conventional viewfinder) can make the bravest of the guests apprehensive. But the near invisibility of the Z7’s screen image in sunlight was a real shock to me. I’d far rather have a softer image that I can see than a sharper one I can’t. In the fright of the day I was at times reduced to pointing the camera and hoping; the side screen was as bad as that.

tom.

Richard Lacey February 10th, 2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Strange (Post 1482594)
Has anyone bought from Simply Electronics before?

I'm liking the price of the Sony FX1000, (to replace my FX7)

James

Do a google search for them.
Sound like a right bunch of scammers.


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