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Steve Kimmel May 1st, 2012 03:40 PM

FS700 Prices Revealed
 
$8000 for body only:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/853273-REG/Sony_NEX_FS700_4K_Ready_High_Speed.html

$8600 with 18-200 lens:

Sony NEX-FS700UK


Super 35 Camcorder with 18 - 200 NEX-FS700UK


Expected availability at B&H: June 30th

Mark Kenfield May 2nd, 2012 05:22 AM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Wow, terrific pricing! If you'd told me a couple of years ago that you'd be able to get a camera with these features at this price point I'd never have believed you.

Pete Constable May 2nd, 2012 03:24 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
All we need now is a shoulder mount version to replace the discontinued XL Canon series. Congratulations Sony

David Dwyer May 2nd, 2012 03:34 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Man that is cheap compared to the UK

£7,678.80 inc VAT or $10,352.94 No VAT

Sony NEX-FS700EK (NEXFS700EK) 4K Ready Super 35mm Camcorder with Lens

John Wiley May 2nd, 2012 04:58 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Mark & Pete, have either of you seen the Australian Pricing yet? I have a bad feeling it will come in at around $12-15k locally.

At least being a world model with 50/60hz switchability means we can still order it from the US, and with GST/import taxes it will still come in uder $10,000.

Allan Black May 2nd, 2012 06:13 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Here we go again .. the 4k software upgrade will probably cost $2000 more, then next year it'll come with the cam.

Cheers.

Chris Medico May 2nd, 2012 06:20 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Allan Black (Post 1731126)
Here we go again .. the 4k software upgrade will probably cost $2000 more, then next year it'll come with the cam.

Cheers.

I have to laugh to keep from crying. That is so true.

Lee Mullen May 3rd, 2012 09:40 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Retailers in SE Asia and certainly Australia dont seem to have any idea when this camera will be available or they dont care.

Lee Mullen May 3rd, 2012 09:41 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Wiley (Post 1731119)
Mark & Pete, have either of you seen the Australian Pricing yet? I have a bad feeling it will come in at around $12-15k locally.

At least being a world model with 50/60hz switchability means we can still order it from the US, and with GST/import taxes it will still come in uder $10,000.

And they wonder why people buy overseas, greed is good they say.

Annen James May 4th, 2012 08:59 AM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Yes but will the kit lens have servo zoom control from the rocker switch???

Glen Vandermolen May 4th, 2012 09:24 AM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Annen James (Post 1731413)
Yes but will the kit lens have servo zoom control from the rocker switch???

No. It's the same 18-200 kit lens as on the FS100.
We can assume Sony will make a servo zoom lens, eventully.

Jim Michael May 4th, 2012 11:39 AM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Medico (Post 1731127)
I have to laugh to keep from crying. That is so true.

I went to a presentation here in Atlanta a couple of days ago and asked the Sony rep if this was going to be a repeat of the S-Log scenario. He said the 4k upgrade was going to be free but you would need the recorder to handle the data coming out the back end. Which third party vendors will be able to record the 4k 12 bit data stream?

Ric Marrty May 4th, 2012 06:13 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Medico (Post 1731127)
I have to laugh to keep from crying. That is so true.

Then add 4k for the new sony recorder to enable the fs700 to record in 4k so the camera gets close to 15k

Ric

Ric Marrty May 4th, 2012 06:15 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Annen James (Post 1731413)
Yes but will the kit lens have servo zoom control from the rocker switch???

The servo zoom add another 2k (at least)

Ric

Chris Medico May 4th, 2012 09:14 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ric Marrty (Post 1731514)
Then add 4k for the new sony recorder to enable the fs700 to record in 4k so the camera gets close to 15k

Ric

My reference above was about the F3. I paid $3.7k for S-Log right before they started giving it away.

Ric Marrty May 5th, 2012 08:30 AM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
I doubt that sony will give away a 4k firmware upgrade and screw its higher tier cameras.

A full fs700 with 4k,recorder and servo zoom should be close to 17k.


ric

Kris Koster May 5th, 2012 01:24 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ric Marrty (Post 1731607)
I doubt that sony will give away a 4k firmware upgrade and screw its higher tier cameras.

A full fs700 with 4k,recorder and servo zoom should be close to 17k.
ric

Sorry, Ric, but they are (apparently).

Notes On Video: Sony NEX-FS700 Pre-NAB Chat
(about 12 questions up from the bottom)

Ric Marrty May 5th, 2012 08:40 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
We can both be half right. Buy the recorder and get the firmware free. who would want an upgrade firmware and not be able to use. This will still put the camera imop in the mid teens at least.

Ric

Glen Vandermolen May 5th, 2012 09:19 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
To those of you quoting prices on Sony gear that doesn't even exist yet - you really have no idea what it will cost. You can stop pulling imaginary prices out of your posteriors anytime now.

Ric Marrty May 5th, 2012 10:14 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Sony had a recorder that cost 3500., They are not going to short sell their higher end cameras.

It will be a take it or leave it it's basic marketing 101. You think sony is santa claus?

The fs700 at bh goes for 8k without lens. The lens is another 850.oo thats almost 9k.

If you think that the will sell a 4.2.2 or 4.4.4. recorder for the price of a samurai you are dreaming. But even if they do you are taking of a camera in the 10k without servo zoom.

I figure about 4k give or take 500. Now we are in the 13 k region then add a servo zoom 2k at least.
15k is now the price.

They seem to be following The Red system of modular and upgrades.

Dream on

Ric

You probobly have experience putting things in you posterioir i don't. K.M.A

Chris Medico May 6th, 2012 05:42 AM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
The Gemini would be able to record the 4k RAW stream if Sony packages the data as I expect they will. We know how much that recorder costs. Obviously the firmware of the Gemini would have to be updated to accept the FS700's RAW format.

If you are going to use any figure to budget for a recorder I would start with the price of a Gemini.

Ric Marrty May 6th, 2012 09:20 AM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
I wanted to be more conservative in pricing. but 4.4.4 ,sdi should be part of the package that sony presents. If gemeni is the bench mark we are talking about at least 7k with ssd so a full fs700 would be close to 20k. I don't think it will go that high but who knows. But I doubt they would want to affect the F3 sales. F3 start at about 13k without lens. But we will.

Ric

Alister Chapman May 6th, 2012 12:22 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
It will never be 444 due to internal processing limitations. But then if you have RAW why do you need 444. The 4K may also work with the Ki-Pro Quad. I'd be very surprised if any servo zoom was less than $3K.

While Sony do like to protect various product lines, you do need to remember that the FS100/FS700 come from a different team and different factory to the F3. The FS cameras are from Shinegawa while the F3 and other XDCAM and above products come from Atsugi and there is some quite strong rivalry to be the best between these two teams.

Ric Marrty May 6th, 2012 12:53 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Exactly thats why sony has announced a 4.4.4. recorder to output from the camera after a firmware update that will give fs700 4.4.4 capacity.

ric

Alister Chapman May 6th, 2012 03:12 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Where did they announce that? Do you have an official link? The output is absolutely restricted to 8 bit, even the 3G output is only going to be 8 bit. 8 Bit RGB or YCbCr makes no sense at all when you will have 10 bit RAW.

Don't be confused by the RGB HDMI option where the FS700 can output 8 bit RGB over HDMI. RGB is by it's very nature 4:4:4 but the data stream going in to that HDMI output is only 4:2:2. So you have a 4:4:4 signal but the data it contains is only 4:2:2 and has been cross converted from YCbCr so will be of lower quality than a proper 4:2:2 YCbCr output.

Ric Marrty May 6th, 2012 03:57 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Sony NEX-FS700 cinema camera hands-on (video) -- Engadget Check the sony spokesman in the video

Ric.

Ric Marrty May 6th, 2012 04:25 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
also check


ric

Alister Chapman May 6th, 2012 04:35 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
No reference to 444 in those videos, only the 4k option, which is something quite different.

I am a Sony ICE and I was on the booth at NAB and there was no mention of 444. My japanese Sony engineering contacts have not mentioned 444. I think you are mistaken.

Ric Marrty May 6th, 2012 04:42 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
you are rightI don't know how i got the two mixed but still the 4 k option will only work with a sony recorder to be announced in an undetermined future. I asume this will price the camera just under the f3.

or close to the cannon 300. and higher with the servo zoom lens.

ric

Ric Marrty May 6th, 2012 07:32 PM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Check this conversation on fs700. I know its speculative but its based on facts

Why I will probably choose the Red Scarlet over the Sony FS700. : Sony NXCAM

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-vid...oduct-SR1TS25/

ric

Alister Chapman May 7th, 2012 12:57 AM

Re: FS700 Prices Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ric Marrty (Post 1731803)
you are rightI don't know how i got the two mixed but still the 4 k option will only work with a sony recorder to be announced in an undetermined future. I asume this will price the camera just under the f3.

ric

We don't know that for sure yet. Sony won't discuss how the recording option will work. I do know that they have been discussing Some options with 3rd party recorder vendors. Perhaps Sony will use Their new XQD cards, maybe SxS or maybe SRMemory, which incidentally works out cheaper at 4k than SxS was per minute with xdcam when it was launched.
Right now I wouldn't by a FS700 just for future 4k but I am buying one for it's slow mo capabilities.


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