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Weird stuff going on with my rx10 last weekend, I had dialled in a standard preset with contrast -3 and all the rest at 0 when somewhere halfway teh shoot I notice on the screen the saturation is also at -3 while I had not touched it. Also had I set the OIS to standard and somewhere throughout the day I see it's set to off! I checked my footage and it looks I shot most with stabilisation on active so I noticed in time.

Another weird thing is that when I was shooting something totally zoomed in at 200 mm and when I then would shut down the camera the lens will automatically move back to 24mm, when I then would switch on the camera the lens won't move until I start zooming, only since yesterday the lens will go back to it's previous position (200mm in my example) without me touching the zoom.

I was not even aware this was possible, strangest thing is have not changed anything in the menu so something has triggered this behaviour.

How is it with other rx10 users, does your lens go back to it last position after you power up the camera and if so, is this something you can change in the cameramenu?

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I'll have to double check, but is it possible that you changed modes? One of the more "awkward" things I've run into is that you can customize things in different modes (plus there are "memory" settings to speed recall custom setups), so you think you've set something, change modes, and it's different. At least I think that's what's happening...

On one hand it's nice to have the ability to set "everything", but when there are so many mode options, it's tough to remember what you've set which way...

I think sometime I must sit down and spend more time "customizing" and see how "personalized" I can get the camera!

I do seem to recall there was a setting about returning the lens, but again I'd have to take a look at it and see - likely a feature, not a bug!

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Noa, my lens retracts at shutdown and does not return to it's previous position. I have not seen/noticed a place in the menu for this.

Regarding the settings changing, I have not experienced that particular issue (yet).

I have noticed some peculiar behavior with my autofocus when using it in C mode. On several occasions when in C (auto focus) the camera behaves as if it's in manual and will not adjust focus. It really alarmed me the first few times it happened. I couldn't figure out what was wrong or what I was doing wrong.

I finally figured out I needed to change the focus settings dial to any other setting and then change it back to C and it returned to normal.

I bought my RX10 used and I have often wondered if ithis is the reason the camera was returned.

I do use manual focus a lot on the camera, but I do also use auto focus at times. I used autofocus a lot when I first received the camera so I could concentrate on exposure, etc., and get used to the camera, but am now relying much more on manual, but still don't like this to have happnened.

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I didn"t know the camera was able to do that up until now, Dave; does the lens in your camera lens return to it's last position after you start it up? I find that feature useful at times but need to know where to turn it on or off.

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I can't find anything in the menus, coulda sworn I had this happen as well, but can't replicate it now! Wondering if maybe it IS a bug!?

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Who knows I"l be getting what I wished for which is a fast zoom action during record, ha, that would make my rx10 worth twice as much when I sell it!

I"ll post a video of this mysterious zoom action tomorrow, see if anyone that owns a rx10 can replicate it.

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So here it is, my new hidden zoom feature or bug, actually I don't mind the camera doing this but in some occasions I rather not have it do this. Have another wedding this saturday, will see how the camera behaves because last weekend some important settings where changed without me touching anything I"m aware off. (like I mention before the ois was switched off and saturation on standard preset was set to -3 and I didn't do it)

If I get a few other changes like that the camera will be send in and I"ll use below video as evidence something is not right (if that is the case).

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I"m not sure anymore what changes I exactly made but when I"m in moviemode when I start up the camera the focus is always is auto, then if I want to switch to manual I just press the big button on the back in the centre of that dial where you can change the iso. Pressing this button toggles between auto and manual focus.

I just noticed something else, if I switch to manual focus and turn the focusring the screen automatically magnifies for 2 seconds like I have set it in the menu, this doesn't work anymore, I can still use the magnification by pressing the ael button on the back which is ok for me now but this is yet another weird thing.

This reminds me of my nex-ea50, it had 2 different dials to operate the menu, one of those 2 stopped working only a few weeks after I had it, because there was a second way to go into the menu I just left it like that but planned to send the camera in when wedding season was finished. Eventually I decided to sell the camera at the end of the wedding season and when the new buyer came to check out the camera the menu button worked like it should :)

Run and gun with the Sony RX10
 

Used the RX10 as my sole video and stills camera to shoot behind the scenes footage of a 3day photo workshop here in Maui, Hawaii. Dunked it in the sand a few times, took it hiking up 2mile trail through a forest to shoot at the base of a waterfall, and hung it outside of the car on the long winding road to Hana. It survived all of that - simply amazed at what this little camera can do. 99% handheld with no additional gear except one or two shots with the Varizoom Stealthygo unit.

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Some nice looking shots in there :) Just to know, does the zoom on your rx10 return to it's previous position after you power it up again?

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So far whenever I power on the camera, it defaults to the widest zoom setting. Have not run into the issue you described yet.

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One possible connection to what you're experiencing: If you have power saver turned on and it shuts off automatically, once you hit the shutter to wake it up, it returns to the last lens position, exactly what you're experiencing but with a full power off. No idea how the two could get their wires crossed, but it's the correct behavior for that sort of separate function

Rx10 glamour video (slightly Nsfw)
 

Continually amazed at what this camera can do.
One issue I ran into was trying to view the LCD in bright sunlight (like when I had it on the jib arm for the opening shot). Thinking I could really use a good magnifying loupe for the screen. I have a zacuto finder for my canon 7d but it doesn't really fit the smaller rx10 body. Any suggestions ?

https://vimeo.com/m/98602240

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At yesterdays wedding the zoom bug has disappeared again, all back to normal. I think my rx10 had a bad day.

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At the last weddings I have been using my rx10 more and also during the ceremony, in the beginning that was only during the photoshoot, later on during a ceremony in a church and a ceremony out in the open on a sunny day and also to cover speeches. In the beginning I really wanted to sell the camera again because of the very slow zoom but now that I have edited the rx10 footage shot under various conditions I am very impressed about what this camera outputs.

Allthough I love using my cx730's they do have that video kind of look, the rx10's footage has a more pleasing dslr kind of look, the colors are nicer and punchier and the image looks very sharp and with stronger contrasts, eventhough it's "only" a 1 inch sensor it's easy to push the background out of focus when you zoom in and the bokeh looks very "creamy". Skintones also are very natural looking.

I have included some frame exported directly from the timeline without any colorcorrection, it was shot with the standard preset with the contrast set to -2 , can't post any faces from that wedding but below frames do show a pretty detailed image with a dynamic range that is not bad at all. I plan to use the camera much more during next weddings, it's only too bad about that 30 minute limit, makes shooting ceremonies cumbersome.

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Hi guys,

I'm considering getting a Sony RX10 to replace my Canon 550D/T2i but I'm not sure if the quality of the video is better then the 550D?

Would you say the video quality is any better or is worst then a 550D? I'm also considering getting an external recorder so it goes longer then the 29 minute time limit.

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I have used a 550d for about 2 years so it's easy to compare, to answer your question, the videoquality is better then the 550d, there is much more detail and hardly any moire or aliasing. It's also better in low light and less noisy at higher iso's. Ergonomically the rx10 is also a superior camera in every way and it has better internal mikes.

The only thing you need to consider is that you can't get the same shallow dof as your 550d combined with a f1.4 lens since the rx10 has a constant f2.8 lens and a smaller sensor but you can get some very nice looking bokeh if you zoom in.

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Thanks for the response Noa.

I just watched a couple of your videos you shot on the RX10 that you posted in another thread and it does look great.

Quick questions, Do you think the RX10 would be ok being turned on for an hour and half or would it overheat and turn off? My 550D has only done this a handful of times since I got it in 2010 and Can you use the RX10 while it's plugged in with the AC cable?

Thanks

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Matt, Do you know for a fact the the RX10 will record longer than 29 minutes when recording from the HDMI port on the rx10? I have not been able to find this out, Even Sony can't get the facts straight on this.

I'm very interested about this. I have a RX10 and want to get a Ninja 2 recorder, but I need to know this for a fact,

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Well I just got my answer back from Sony on the recorded time liimit to an external recorder. Here is there response, anyone experience differently? I would sure like to know, sometimes I cant't trust Sony's support people.

Thank you for contacting Sony Alpha Email Response Team.

I understand that you want to know if there is limitation when recording a video using XAVC-S video codec with Clean HDMI Port using External Recorder with Sony RX10 camera. Let me answer this inquiry.

Even you are using an External Recorder for the output of your video, you're still going to have the limitation of 29 minutes time duration, because all Sony camera has that limitation for recording video, unlike Sony Camcoder that can record continuous video.

If you still have some question or inquiry you can always write us back.

Thank you for choosing Sony, have a great day.

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I believe you have to not record in camera to bypass the limit.

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Matt, The only way I know how to not record with the RX10 is to put no SD cards in. I wish I knew someone with an Atmos Ninja 2 recorder to test it a few times with no internal SD cards.
Somebody please try if you can and post your results, Thanks in Advance!

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Don't you just not press record?

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Matt,

Yes, that's all you have to do is press record, but if you do that with out any SD cards installed, It gives a message that says No Card! What I don't know is if you have a recorder hooked up to the HDMI port and the HDMI port is set up as active in the camera menu, If, it would still give that error message and if it would record longer than 29 minutes.

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Yeah, but when you're recording through HDMI, you don't press record on the camera just on the external device, so it won't get to the in-camera recording limit, right?

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Well, That's a good point, but, In looking at my menu, you can't set the power saver mode to anything longer than 30 minutes,There is No option to turn the power saver mode off, hence, then when you would press the record button on the external recorder, what ever the power saver mode was set at it would then shut the camera down. Of course with out having the recorder to try it with, this is all speculation at this point.

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Oh right, I thought it didn't effect the HDMI output like it doesn't on the A7s, but guess no way to tell without trying.

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Ok, I had a real experience with the Cyber-shot technical support dept. today. I spoke with a rep that said you can use the Sony ACW20 A/C Power adapter with the RX10, See Link: AC Adapter for Alpha NEX Cameras - ACPW20 Review | Sony Store U.S. - Sony US

But I'm not going to buy this one as there are all kinds of ACW20 Clones on Ebay and Amazon for $15-$25
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...1B22BGMMBV2SAR

According to the Sony Rep, If you plug this in it will give you continuous power, WITHOUT powering the camera down after 30 minutes, EXCEPT, for the possibility of overheating, then it will power down sometime shortly after the Overheat indicator shows on the screen. SOOOoo, I also asked him about using it to record through the HDMI port, He confirmed that it should work, So I think with a Clone ACW20 A/C Adapter, and a Ninja-2 recorder, we can record longer than 30 minutes! The real question seems to be, How long after the 30 minute time before it starts to Overheat. Of course, that depends on the environment of the camera, temperature. I'm going to get one of these cheaper A/C adapters and give it a try in a couple different Envoirments temperature wise and see how it goes. I will post the results here soon.

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I have a question with picture profiles. I'm wondering how flat a profile one can use in camera without braking the image when it comes to colour correction.

I have noticed on line that most videos I see are heavy in saturation and the blacks tend to crush. I'm sure I could dial back the saturation, what about the black levels?

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Hey Leon, how'd it go?

Denny, good question, overall I find my images a bit overly saturated, I normally can adjust in post, but would be nice to begin closer to my other cameras. I do have it dialed back a bit, but apparently not enough. It's a C cam so I am not freaked about it, and I really don't spend much time with the camera, so I'll be interested to see what responses your post provokes.

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Ok, I got the cheapo AC adapter, it works fine, with No SD card, and displaying out of the HDMI port. I did not get a Ninja-2 yet. But I really love this little camera.

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No time limit with ac adapter?

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No Limit, I think the reason is, is because the camera is not having to buffer and write to the SD card, which makes the processor work, which causes overheating, and also the time limit. In the case of the Ninja-2, it's doing all the processing and encoding, taking the load of the RX-10. I have not had a need lately for extended recording, so I'll wait till I get a job that requires it then I will get a Ninja-2.

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I inquired about the price for a spare battery for the RX10.
It costs £58, just wondered if that where any third party batteries available now?

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Amazon is my first place to look.

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Yes, I found this.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...A3T70JQ20X40RV

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Looks good!

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Thanks Jeff.

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I can't recommend the brand, don't know them, but I got similar deal, two batteries and a charger, which made it worthwhile IMO.

To get the best images from the camera will take a bit of practice! I have finally given up and now run in full manual most the time, it makes such a difference.

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Full manual, OK Jeff, thanks