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Thomas Smet September 11th, 2007 05:48 PM

Here is a simple solution. Shoot 720p 24p then you will never have to worry about psf frames and how a digital dsplay that a client has will deal with the footage.

Other then that you will need Blu-Ray authoring tools that will set proper flags on the disc so a Blu-Ray player will output true 1080p. I'm not sure if DVD-it will do that yet or not. The same will be true for HD-DVD. The encoder and authoring software will have to support flags on the disc just like with DVD's.

Andrew Kimery September 11th, 2007 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Boston (Post 742589)
Here's a good document that explains all this stuff.

http://www.leitch.com/resources/whit.../Whatis24P.pdf

-gb-

I've said it once, and I'll probably keep saying it until the day I die. HD is the most "un-standard" standard ever standardized. ;)

Thanks for the link Greg.


-Andrew

Tyson Perkins September 11th, 2007 07:44 PM

So can someone please desrcibe to me what kind of workflow your looking at if you want to ingest 1920-1080 24p EX footage into your FCS without the use of a capture card/HD-SDI or what not? so that the resultant footage is the full rez capture? This will just clarify this whole argument for me lol

Andrew Kimery September 11th, 2007 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyson Perkins (Post 742854)
So can someone please desrcibe to me what kind of workflow your looking at if you want to ingest 1920-1080 24p EX footage into your FCS without the use of a capture card/HD-SDI or what not? so that the resultant footage is the full rez capture? This will just clarify this whole argument for me lol

AFAIK the EX format is not supported yet by FCS so you'd need to transcode to a full raster codec (like ProRes) to keep it 1920*1080. I've e-mailed my Sony rep w/Q's about an EX workflow but I haven't heard back yet.


-A

Tyson Perkins September 11th, 2007 08:07 PM

Okay well be sure to post that up here when you hear back

Andrew Kimery September 11th, 2007 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyson Perkins (Post 742864)
Okay well be sure to post that up here when you hear back

Definitely will.


-A

John Hewat September 13th, 2007 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ramsbottom (Post 742566)
<snip> Is it possible to shoot 24p (or 25p) 1920x1080 footage to an SxS card and then simply drag it to the PC as a file?

Yes.

And this is HQ mode 35 Mbit footage?

Alister Chapman September 13th, 2007 10:53 AM

FCS will support the EX at launch. The importer has been written and I was demoing it at IBC. You open the importer and get thumbnails of the clips (the camera is connected using firewire and File Access Mode (FAM)). You select the clips you want and hit import. The files are imported into FCP as .mov files but without any transcoding and at the full 1920x1080 resolution. The .mp4 files are re-wrapped in .mov wrappers so FCP can handle them but the content is not transcoded or re-compressed so there is no loss of quality and the transfer is extremely quick (6x real time or more depending on the connection). The importer is essentially an improved version of the one currently used to import XDCAM HD material. You will also be able to use the "Log and Transfer" function of FCP to import EX material.

Piotr Wozniacki September 13th, 2007 11:46 AM

Alister, while we are at "rewrapping" - does the EX1 own application that rewraps MP4's into mxf's use any recompression?

Greg Boston September 13th, 2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki (Post 743777)
Alister, while we are at "rewrapping" - does the EX1 own application that rewraps MP4's into mxf's use any recompression?

Not to answer for Alister, but the answer is no. MXF is also a container format that includes video, audio, and metadata. There is no re-compression needed.

-gb-

Andrew Kimery September 14th, 2007 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyson Perkins (Post 742864)
Okay well be sure to post that up here when you hear back

Sony USA isn't making an official announcement about the EX until the 18th so my rep's lips are sealed until then unfortunately.


-A


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