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Paul Joy November 14th, 2007 07:37 PM

FCP 6.02 update adds EX Support
 
I just ran a software update on my mac and noticed that apple have released a 6.02 update to final cut (and an update most of the fcs suite) amongst which are a lot of changes to support the XDCAM EX.

More here...

http://www.apple.com/support/release...ut_Pro_6.0_rn/

Alister Chapman November 15th, 2007 07:08 AM

You may need to go to the apple site to download the updates.

Also the new sony transfer tool version 2.1 went live on www.sonybiz.net/xdcam today

Paul Cronin November 15th, 2007 08:57 AM

Thanks Paul and Alister for keeping us up to date.

Vince Gaffney November 15th, 2007 11:28 AM

Has anyone found the XDCAM EX Plug-in for FC that is required? The final cut release notes specify it but defer to a sony link which reveals very little.

vince

Brent Ethington November 15th, 2007 12:28 PM

Vince,

Alister's post above contains the link to what's needed. There are numerous references in the XDCAM Transfer Software v2.1 software update page that references importing into Final Cut Pro, so hopefully this will do the trick

Brent

Vince Gaffney November 15th, 2007 01:15 PM

Thanks Brent but the release notes refer to an XDCAM EX plug-in in addition to the xdcam transfer 2.1 software. that's what I'm looking for.

vince

Paul Cronin November 15th, 2007 01:32 PM

I would hope all the Sony software we need will come with the camera.

Brent Ethington November 15th, 2007 01:54 PM

I have just installed both the Transfer Software Updatge v2.1 and the FCP 6.0.2 update, and now in the FCP File->Import menu there is an option to import Sony XDCAM. When you invoke the import option, it brings up a Sony XDCAM Transfer UI that says "Use the Add button to insert media into a connected XMCAM device".

When I point the transfer UI to an 'MXF' file, it does nothing. I can't select an XDCAM EX MP4 file (as found on the forum here). There doesn't seem to be a way to just import a file from anything other than an XDCAM device...

EDIT: correction, it looks like the Add... button wants you to specify a Source location and not a source file. When you press the 'Add...' button, do not select a file - just navigate to the source file location, then click Open - if you select a file, then it won't do anything. Once I did this, I was able to import an MXF file from an XDCAM HD (?), but it wouldn't see the MP4 files from an XDCAM EX

Brent

Vince Gaffney November 15th, 2007 02:02 PM

Same here. There's another plug-in we need to find and i have not been able to yet.

"Transfer software and an XDCAM EX plug-in. For more information about this software, go to the Sony website at http://www.sony.com/xdcam."

"Important: A separate plug-in from Sony is required to enable these features."

it's in the release notes twice.

vince

Brent Ethington November 15th, 2007 02:23 PM

hmmm... In the Sony docs for the transfer software, they refer to the FCP plug-in as part of the package (which does enable the Import functionality). The docs also explicitly refer to the XDCAM EX files as MP4 files. So, it's getting close.

I wonder if the sony.com link versus the sonybiz.net is just a country thing (since sonybiz.net doesn't offer United States as a country choice)

still, it doesn't work... :-)

Alister - have you gotten it to work with the clips you've captured?

Joe Lawry November 15th, 2007 02:32 PM

Did you guys see the SxS PRO device driver on this page? - http://www.sonybiz.net/biz/view/Show...=1193315621889

could that be what your missing?

Brent Ethington November 15th, 2007 02:39 PM

yes, I did also install the sxs driver. I found that it's the same version driver that shipped with the xdcam clip viewer. I think it only serves to let sxs cards be mounted and accessed on the Mac

Steve Mullen November 15th, 2007 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent Ethington (Post 776072)
I can't select an XDCAM EX MP4 file (as found on the forum here).

EDIT: correction, it looks like the Add... button wants you to specify a Source location and not a source file. When you press the 'Add...' button, do not select a file - just navigate to the source file location, then click Open - if you select a file, then it won't do anything. Once I did this, I was able to import an MXF file from an XDCAM HD (?), but it wouldn't see the MP4 files from an XDCAM EX

The Sony Browser required one to use ADD to select an MP4 file. This action, however, seems wrong to me.

It is possible that ADD works ONLY if you select a CARD. That makes sense as ADD would mean "add" MEDIA DEVICE. Once a DEVICE was added, all the MP4 files would show-up.

If so, you need to fake a card. Probably not possible. But it raises the question of how files you copy from a card to other device can be imported into FCP.

Alessandro Zumstein November 15th, 2007 03:50 PM

Works on a macbookpro?
 
Hello, i am a new youser of Finalcutpro i used for long time casablanca systems.
I want buy a last generation Apple macbook pro 17 . Does 1080p, 35Mbit/s EX1 footage works good and fast on this nootebook?

Mike Testin November 15th, 2007 04:11 PM

So with this, you don't need an intel mac right. A regular G5 should be ok?

Brent Ethington November 15th, 2007 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Testin (Post 776157)
So with this, you don't need an intel mac right. A regular G5 should be ok?

looks like it

system requirements for the mac XDCAM transfer software says "PowerPC G5 2GHz, Intel 2 Duo 2GHz, Intel Xeon 2 GHz or higher" (and OSX 10.4.10+)

Daniel Weber November 15th, 2007 05:23 PM

I just purchased a new intel macbook pro based on the software requirements of the sony software from version 1.0 of the Transfer Utility!!!

Oh, well I wanted the Express 34 slot anyway!!!

Daniel Weber

Winston Ashley November 15th, 2007 05:58 PM

It would be real nice to have a plugin for the EX that would work with Final Cut 5.1 and 6.0. What are the chances?!

Eric Pascarelli November 15th, 2007 07:39 PM

Has anyone used this new software to successfully load the three downloadable EX1 clips into FCP?

If so, what's the technique?

Craig Seeman November 15th, 2007 09:29 PM

I saw XDCAM xfer 2.1 plugin demonstrated with FCP 6.0.2 tonight at the Moving Pictures Collective meeting (NYFCP User's group) at the Apple Store in Soho NYC.

A woman from Sony (forgot her name) popped in an SXS card into a MacBookPro and the plugin was pointed at the card and the clips popped in to the xfer software which allowed you add names, make subclips, etc and then import into FCP browser. It all happened so fast (credit to the speed of the xfer).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Pascarelli (Post 776269)
Has anyone used this new software to successfully load the three downloadable EX1 clips into FCP?

If so, what's the technique?


Steve Mullen November 15th, 2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winston Ashley (Post 776218)
It would be real nice to have a plugin for the EX that would work with Final Cut 5.1 and 6.0. What are the chances?!

Just upgrade your 6 to 6.0.2.

Winston Ashley November 15th, 2007 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Mullen (Post 776339)
Just upgrade your 6 to 6.0.2.

Or I just need to upgrade from 5.1 to 6.0 then update to 6.0.2! I was trying not drop the 600$ for the upgrade.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman (Post 776311)
I saw XDCAM xfer 2.1 plugin demonstrated with FCP 6.0.2 tonight at the Moving Pictures Collective meeting (NYFCP User's group) at the Apple Store in Soho NYC.

A woman from Sony (forgot her name) popped in an SXS card into a MacBookPro and the plugin was pointed at the card and the clips popped in to the xfer software which allowed you add names, make subclips, etc and then import into FCP browser. It all happened so fast (credit to the speed of the xfer).

That's interesting. Anything else you can tell us about the event?

Vince Gaffney November 16th, 2007 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman (Post 776311)
A woman from Sony (forgot her name) popped in an SXS card into a MacBookPro and the plugin was pointed at the card and the clips popped in to the xfer software which allowed you add names, make subclips, etc and then import into FCP browser. It all happened so fast (credit to the speed of the xfer).

I'm fully updated to 6.0.2 and have installed the available Sony software. It opens in FC and does what it's supposed to (I think) but it won't import an MP4 that I downloaded and put on my media drive. There must be a procedure for this that someone knows. I'm totally new to this non-tape based stuff so there's a bit of curve here.

vince

Mike Testin November 17th, 2007 08:00 PM

So the xfer 2.1 software is compatible with the NON-INTEL macs but this other PLUG -IN is not? I know the brochure says that Intel is needed, but has there been any updates?


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