sorry....impossible to get this image library to work..

here it is...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

http://www.dvinfo.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=859&c=2

You'll probably have to do what I do with my Cartoni - just stack the Manfrotto on top of the existing plate and ignore the existing one.

It's a shame because the Sachtler (and Cartoni) quick releases are so nice. But it's not that big a deal.

It does raise the camera a bit and so affects the counterbalance.